Final Scratch in Clubs

Who has used Final Scratch in clubs? Any problems? Was the setup easy?

gtb use to do nearly everynight at cargo off his mac... really the only person i've seen do it weekly..

Know of any probs he had with it?

Heard he sold it actually...

set ip up before the club opens.. it sux in the dark

if your laptop isnt gay then it shouldnt have a prob
just make sure you have a decent soundcard and the latest drivers

Lappy is about 6 months old
Only has built in sound, but connects via USB, so dont see the relevance?

probably the biggest worry you shoud have is that like all computers, sometimes for noe reason somehting may happen, eg freeze... other than that if everything set up right and not to rushed.. should work fine

Straight from hard drive? As opposed to what?

Does it freeze for a second or a total freeze? Thats a disaster in a club either way!

easy fixed.......get Serato Scratch!!!

Aint gonna happen though, so get back on topic!

yep ive seen it crash in a club

I've thought about it before... I dont think i'd really soley on Final Scratch definitley some vinyl in the bag, then if it crashes you can recovery quickly rather than wait for a reboot.

Also what works is having a dedicated install of XP that I boot into when using FS

If you dont have a Mac and like windows then Id suggest you use Windows Server 2003 Web Server editions (or whatever its called).

The Web server edition is the "lightest" version of windows, with the least amount of shit to fuck up and is the least likely to crash.

I'd suggest that you don't listen to Matt, MS Web Edition is one of the worst products put out, just behind windows ME.

Its easy enough to run a 'lean' install of XP, final scratch under Server 2003 performed rather poorly.

Whats wrong with it? Lack of hardware support?

I know alot of people that swear by it ,and many whom have ditched it as being unreliable,crashes etc.
The product that one John doe hasis wikd (scratch i believe) you can do spin backs with it as final scratch (maybe an older version ) you cant.
I had a shot on it in sydney was very similar to vinyl not exactly the same but damn close .(And at Wojtekas)
But i still love vinyl.
May help to have a lap top thats its sole purpose is to be used for that program only .
But i have seen acts laptops crash hard when they try and perform in hot sweaty clubs .That cant be good for any computer.

This post has been edited by devious: Apr 28 2006, 10:55 PM

Fuck mate, only one way to find out, go for it!

Whether you use a mac or PC G, make sure you run scandisk or discdoctor regularly to ensure the disc is optimised. And it is always advisable to shutdown and reboot prior to an important presentation/gig etc.

It is desighnd for club use so why not??

I was gonna grab FS 2, read and heard great things about it, DJ Craze swears by it( But you would if you were sponsored by Stanton aswell) but have seen Serato in action and have heard good things from blake so I'll be getting down with that.

My 2 cents

for the uneducated what does serato offer over FS?

i used it for the first time last night in a club situation and had no problems what so ever, it was easy to set up and the sound quality was good.

as far as what it offers over fs, imo it's more user friendly, runs smoother and has a few more features (not that know how to use them all) the scroll bar for the wave is coloured and has specific colours for bass mids etc. it's got a beat matching facilty and you can change volumes on you tunes internally. i was original going to buy FS but was talking out of it by refluxx who swears by serato. the day i went into derringers to suss it all out he gave me a demo and i was amazed at what he could do with it. not that i'll ever be able to use it to the same extent he does but i'm happy with it.

sorry i don't have any real technical info on it cos i'm not really a tech head but for me it's the bollocks!

if your worried bout your PC/Mac crashing while on stage, thrash it out for a few days before!

loop some 3d demos, memtest it, plug in as many usb devices as possible, etc

So what kps is good enough for nightclub quality...

They sell tunes at 320 kps, but 128 even sounds good at home.... what about clubs? I have heard should be 160 at least.. some say 192 at least?

must be at least 192kbps G or it sounds crap

you notice the mids-high`s in a club setup.. even the bottom end sounds flat and washy.

192 will do the job but if you can go higher then do so

OK, I have a good tune then I can only find at 160kps. Good enough for club use or not?

If the system is shit then 160 might do it... But its up to you if you want to try it.

For my home use my mp3s are 256 minimum and my AACs are 192+. Your ears might not be able to tell the difference but others can.

AAC?

Advanced Audio Codec. .m4a, whatever you like. Similar deal to mp3 but is better quality per bitrate/file size. Its the format I use if I rip CDs etc, although I wont change an mp3 to AAC because you lose twice when you encode twice.

hmm i wouldnt use a track at 160.... minimum i buy my tracks is 192, and thats if its just some commercial stuff to plz the punters...

What sites do you buy from? And how much they cost per tune? Can you get ANY tune?

hmmm i buy from

www.beatport.com
www.audiojelly.com

for your garage needs try www.3beatdigital.com

thats where i buy most of my tunes... you wont find any track... tracks that have been released on vinyl lately have like a 95% chance of being released on digital... just takes time to look around

how much?

beatport is the cheapest i think at around US$2, some are US$2.49.. work out to be between like $2.60 - $3.20 Australian. All are 320 kp/s quality... can even buy in wav format for an extra US$1, something around 1400 kp/s

audiojelly and 3beatdigital im pretty sure are a lil more pricey.. for most tracks they have the option to buy at either 192 or 320 kps.. tracks range from 1.25 - 2.49 pounds... but cus of the rate of exchange it works out more expensive...

beatport has a wider range i think.. runs smoother, and a positive is you can sign in.. put tracks in your basket and then pay for them when you want, also you dont have to put in your credit card details each time like you do with the other 2

This post has been edited by Nic Borrelli: May 24 2006, 01:35 PM

G, if you're after hard dance

try

www.nuenergy.co.uk/shop - nu-energy records and heaps more exclusives
www.imodownload.net - shit loads of tunes and stocks heaps of labels
www.vcmp3.com- vicious circles new online store

im lovin Juno`s new electronic downloads. lots of trance / house etc.


not sure about poostep tho

Dont download it then. Someone else will, thats why its there.

who you talking too?

hes weird that mayday guy..

I hear that Raine Serato is much better

yeh.... rane is the way to go, maybe go one better and have ableton running through it, eg paul van dyk

was thinking about getting serato scratch, but theres so much you can do with some decent cdj's and some effects units.... hopefully soon down the track ill be able to upgrade my set-up to accomodate this sorta stuff

im still unsure if il step up to serato scratch...
love the concept but honestly sometimes, the last thing id wanto do at a gig is spend 15 mins setting up / testing etc..

CDJ`s and vinyl are doing good for me still.

took two mins for Dan to set up at Feva dude...