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Stamina MCPosted: 7 Feb 2006, 4:35pm

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...simply to be able to read the board from top to bottom like, erm, every other board on Earth! I thought I might get used to it over time but I really haven't- considering lines in a post are read from top to bottom it seems bizarre to then have to look above everything I've just read for the next sequential post...

Yours head-scratchingly...

Linden.

Step into my world...

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http://youtube.com/profile_videos?user=StaminaMC

wojtekPosted: 7 Feb 2006, 4:37pm

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No can do, this version of the forum had a bug where i had to hard code the reverse thing... it seems to grow on most people.

I'm waiting on a few pieces of software to come out of Release Candidate status before I upgrade to the latest forum version where you will be able to change the order in your preferences *fingers crossed*

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LovelyDriftPosted: 7 Feb 2006, 4:40pm

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You rock Woj, can I have your kids?

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Stamina MCPosted: 7 Feb 2006, 4:43pm

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Alrighty. "It's on the way" is better than "go fuck yourself" I guess, hehe.

Step into my world...

http://www.myspace.com/musicfromstamina

http://www.flickr.com/photos/stamina/sets/

http://youtube.com/profile_videos?user=StaminaMC

wojtekPosted: 7 Feb 2006, 4:47pm

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QUOTE(LovelyDrift @ Feb 7 2006, 05:40 PM)

You rock Woj, can I have your kids?

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If i ever have kids i'll drop them off at your place.... done and dusted.

Keep in mind I havent commited to an ETA yet... all depends on
a) the portal software coming out of Release Candidate
b) finding the time to do it
c) hoping that the bug is fixed in the latest version of Invision

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OddyPosted: 7 Feb 2006, 5:01pm

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it's heaps better like this anyhoo

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MaydayPosted: 7 Feb 2006, 5:56pm

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Most recent post first sucks.

"my mouth has never been so sore! seriously feels like ive given 30 blow jobs!"

Anonymous well known female RA member, after a big System6 weekend, June 2008

OddyPosted: 7 Feb 2006, 6:08pm

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QUOTE(Mayday @ Feb 7 2006, 06:56 PM)

Most recent post first sucks.
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says you mongoloid!!

If your on the boards loads makes shit heaps quicker

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wojtekPosted: 7 Feb 2006, 6:08pm

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Especially when the most recent post is yours.

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They are today, they are tomorrow
It's a stupid thing we say
Cursing tomorrow with sorrow.

mellyPosted: 7 Feb 2006, 6:42pm

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most recent post first makes sense!! who wants to read page 1 of 120640 of the 'dont you love it thread'?? it means more clicking which i cant be assed doing!

log onto the LAN says:
i want to fuck her in the burns unit
log onto the LAN says:
'i slowly unpeeled her soft bandages'
log onto the LAN says:
'gently caressing the scolded flesh'
log onto the LAN says:
god i feel sick

JonesyPosted: 7 Feb 2006, 6:45pm

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QUOTE(melly @ Feb 7 2006, 06:42 PM)

most recent post first makes sense!! who wants to read page 1 of 120640 of the 'dont you love it thread'?? it means more clicking which i cant be assed doing!
[right][snapback]640144[/snapback][/right]

AGREED ITS FINE THE WAY IT IS

skipPosted: 7 Feb 2006, 6:46pm

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The reason I like it in the 'proper' order is if you know the last time you read the thread it was on page 345, you know you can continue from there.

Thanks for investigating it Woj. I'll cope fine until then though. Helps add to ra's charm

^NEMESIS^Posted: 7 Feb 2006, 6:55pm

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QUOTE(melly @ Feb 7 2006, 06:42 PM)

most recent post first makes sense!! who wants to read page 1 of 120640 of the 'dont you love it thread'?? it means more clicking which i cant be assed doing!
[right][snapback]640144[/snapback][/right]

I'm with Melly...

Woj, Skip said he'll lick your balls aswell....

Fuck having a signature..

MaydayPosted: 7 Feb 2006, 7:00pm

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Which is why every other board has a "read first unread post" button...

"my mouth has never been so sore! seriously feels like ive given 30 blow jobs!"

Anonymous well known female RA member, after a big System6 weekend, June 2008

skipPosted: 7 Feb 2006, 8:00pm

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QUOTE(^NEMESIS^ @ Feb 7 2006, 07:55 PM)

Woj, Skip said he'll lick your balls aswell....

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Only once the forum's 'fixed'.

CypherPosted: 7 Feb 2006, 9:19pm

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request: different colour ?

FallenAngelGPosted: 7 Feb 2006, 9:24pm

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QUOTE(Stamina MC @ Feb 7 2006, 04:35 PM)

...simply to be able to read the board from top to bottom like, erm, every other board on Earth! I thought I might get used to it over time but I really haven't- considering lines in a post are read from top to bottom it seems bizarre to then have to look above everything I've just read for the next sequential post...

Yours head-scratchingly...

Linden.
[right][snapback]640054[/snapback][/right]

*applauds*

I have been complaining about this from day one.

G.

G.

KhemPosted: 7 Feb 2006, 9:24pm

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i have a request.

can you sing LK?

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.-corrosivePosted: 7 Feb 2006, 9:29pm

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QUOTE(Odyssey @ Feb 7 2006, 05:31 PM)

it's heaps better like this anyhoo
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I agree with Oddball... Its alot easier to read fuck going back pages to get to the latest post...

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jjcoolausPosted: 7 Feb 2006, 9:35pm

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QUOTE(melly @ Feb 7 2006, 07:42 PM)

most recent post first makes sense!! who wants to read page 1 of 120640 of the 'dont you love it thread'?? it means more clicking which i cant be assed doing!
[right][snapback]640144[/snapback][/right]

exactly right - thumbsup to woj, oddy & melly - i couldn't go back to the reverse way now - after using RA for so long when i goto other forums it seems so foreign to have to click through to the last page and scroll down

According to Dimitri & Wojtek, i'm a racist because I believe new immigrants should be able to speak english and get a job. How does that make me a racist?

If i wanted to start a new life in Italy or Greece or China or France, don't you think i would have to know the language and be employed?

SpadgePosted: 7 Feb 2006, 9:37pm

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ya cant please everyone

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QUOTE(wojtek @ Aug 29 2006, 11:04 PM) [snapback]1068039911[/snapback]

even if had '2nd knuckled' before this mix I wouldn't be diggin it...

Andrew HowlettPosted: 7 Feb 2006, 9:38pm

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yep. is so much easier, open the thread and immediately see what has been said. easy

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SiGOPosted: 7 Feb 2006, 9:44pm

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I prefer it the other way. I.e most recent post at the end, so much easier to find things when going through multi page threads. And it makes sense to read from page 1 through to page whatever...

When you open a book do you start at page 350 and read backwards to page 1?

No.

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FallenAngelGPosted: 7 Feb 2006, 9:45pm

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It's not easier! If you have a few weeknights out and come back 3 days later it takes a bunch of clicks to find your last post. It's really fkn annoying, this is the only forum I've ever been to that's fkn backwards, why do you guys have to be different.

No wonder you lot are always being called emo :-P

*rofl*

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I like it this way!!

DecepticonPosted: 7 Feb 2006, 10:00pm

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i couldnt give a fuck.

RA is like this

others are the other way. who cares

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SpadgePosted: 7 Feb 2006, 10:11pm

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QUOTE(FallenAngelG @ Feb 7 2006, 10:45 PM)

why do you guys have to be different.

it stems back to the old System 6 forum which was last post first
when we created RA we asked people what they preferred and the majority of people wanted it the way it is today.... so we kept it that way

like woj said if invision release a fix where we can have it user defined then it will solve everyones problem but until then it stays as it is

as you can see from the posts in here...people like it this way and people like it the other way... so which ever way we go now people wont like it

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QUOTE(wojtek @ Aug 29 2006, 11:04 PM) [snapback]1068039911[/snapback]

even if had '2nd knuckled' before this mix I wouldn't be diggin it...

mellyPosted: 7 Feb 2006, 10:46pm

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QUOTE(FallenAngelG @ Feb 7 2006, 09:45 PM)

It's not easier! If you have a few weeknights out and come back 3 days later it takes a bunch of clicks to find your last post. It's really fkn annoying, this is the only forum I've ever been to that's fkn backwards, why do you guys have to be different.

No wonder you lot are always being called emo :-P

*rofl*

G.
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right... ahhh.. who are you? who's calling who emo?

read it daily, means you've got nothing to scroll through

log onto the LAN says:
i want to fuck her in the burns unit
log onto the LAN says:
'i slowly unpeeled her soft bandages'
log onto the LAN says:
'gently caressing the scolded flesh'
log onto the LAN says:
god i feel sick

FallenAngelGPosted: 7 Feb 2006, 10:59pm

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QUOTE(melly @ Feb 7 2006, 10:46 PM)

right... ahhh.. who are you? who's calling who emo?

read it daily, means you've got nothing to scroll through

[right][snapback]640301[/snapback][/right]

Why does nobody on these boards understand sarcasm... *roll-eyes*

If I were to read every single things that gets posted on this forum every single day, not only would I have to have absolutely no social life, but I would become epileptic and develop RSI. It's so hard to keep up with everyone who seem to do nothing but post on here! You people impress me with your speedy replies

G.

RiceBubblesPosted: 8 Feb 2006, 12:30am

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I reckon this should be the offical request thread for the forum. Like stuff people want done for the forums when an admin gets time. I request remotely linking everything so the forum loads slightly faster, when I say everything I just mean the pics. Not that the pics are slow to load, but the forum in general takes a while to load, specially when u open multiple windows at once. Maybe remotely linking the pics will make the hosts server run smoother.

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MMM request let me see :err:

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OdysseyPosted: 8 Feb 2006, 3:27am

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QUOTE(FallenAngelG @ Feb 7 2006, 11:59 PM)

Why does nobody on these boards understand sarcasm... *roll-eyes*

If I were to read every single things that gets posted on this forum every single day, not only would I have to have absolutely no social life, but I would become epileptic and develop RSI. It's so hard to keep up with everyone who seem to do nothing but post on here! You people impress me with your speedy replies :lol:

G.

your not funny

mellyPosted: 8 Feb 2006, 6:59am

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QUOTE(FallenAngelG @ Feb 7 2006, 10:59 PM)

Why does nobody on these boards understand sarcasm... *roll-eyes*

Oh, I understand sarcasm. Quite well in fact.

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QUOTE(FallenAngelG @ Feb 7 2006, 11:59 PM)

Why does nobody on these boards understand sarcasm... *roll-eyes*

We do, maybe your just not very good at it? Perhaps stand in front of a mirror practicing, not only on the way in which you convey your notion of this 'sarcasm', but, maybe brush up on your wit too...couldn't hurt :smart: :)

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dbbPosted: 8 Feb 2006, 7:47am

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QUOTE(Spadge @ Feb 7 2006, 10:11 PM)

like woj said if invision release a fix where we can have it user defined then it will solve everyones problem but until then it stays as it is

as you can see from the posts in here...people like it this way and people like it the other way... so which ever way we go now people wont like it

It's pretty good when accessing on a normal browser.

When you access this site on a WAP / Blackberry browser, however, it shows in the standard (first post first) order.

dbbPosted: 8 Feb 2006, 7:55am

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QUOTE(melly @ Feb 8 2006, 06:59 AM)

Oh, I understand sarcasm. Quite well in fact.

Teen 1: Oh, here comes that cannonball guy. He's cool.
Teen2: Are you being sarcastic, dude?
Teen1: I don't even know anymore.

how do you get an emo down from a tree?
you cut the rope

wojtekPosted: 8 Feb 2006, 8:46am

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QUOTE(RiceBubbles @ Feb 8 2006, 01:30 AM)

I reckon this should be the offical request thread for the forum. Like stuff people want done for the forums when an admin gets time. I request remotely linking everything so the forum loads slightly faster, when I say everything I just mean the pics. Not that the pics are slow to load, but the forum in general takes a while to load, specially when u open multiple windows at once. Maybe remotely linking the pics will make the hosts server run smoother.

Getting off topic here a little but when you consider the 'average' size of a page is over a meg, having it load in *looks at faster fox* 3.655 seconds isn't all that bad.
Having said that there's something not quite right with the front page which takes a bloody long time to load. :grr:

If any self proclaimed apache/php/mysql/linux gurus want to throw in suggestions I'm all ears.

wojtekPosted: 8 Feb 2006, 8:48am

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QUOTE(dbb @ Feb 8 2006, 08:47 AM)

It's pretty good when accessing on a normal browser.

When you access this site on a WAP / Blackberry browser, however, it shows in the standard (first post first) order.

Thats becaused i didn't fudge the code for the lo-fi version as I didnt realise people use it :crazy: I can reverse it if you want.

dbbPosted: 8 Feb 2006, 9:06am

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QUOTE(wojtek @ Feb 8 2006, 08:46 AM)

Getting off topic here a little but when you consider the 'average' size of a page is over a meg, having it load in *looks at faster fox* 3.655 seconds isn't all that bad.
Having said that there's something not quite right with the front page which takes a bloody long time to load. :grr:

If any self proclaimed apache/php/mysql/linux gurus want to throw in suggestions I'm all ears.

The average page isn't anywhere near a meg according to Badboy :

image not archived: perf6ep.jpg

The performance is probably ok considering the amount of crap you get sent when you download a page. It isn't the leanest of forums. Frames everywhere containing all sorts of information / ads / shouts etc.

But yeah, the front page is pretty bad compared to the rest of the forum.

out of interest, what version of Linux is being use, and what hardware?

This is the page load results using Jmeter, 5 samples, 245 ms latency.

image not archived: perf10tm.jpg

SzymonPosted: 8 Feb 2006, 9:48am

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QUOTE(FallenAngelG @ Feb 7 2006, 09:45 PM)

It's not easier! If you have a few weeknights out and come back 3 days later it takes a bunch of clicks to find your last post. It's really fkn annoying, this is the only forum I've ever been to that's fkn backwards, why do you guys have to be different.

No wonder you lot are always being called emo :-P

*rofl*

G.

but, it aint harder either :blink: ...if you havent viewed a thread in days, and you come back and theres been a whole heap of new posts made, itll take the same amount of clicks to find the last post whichever format is used.

wojtekPosted: 8 Feb 2006, 11:39am

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QUOTE(dbb @ Feb 8 2006, 10:06 AM)

The average page isn't anywhere near a meg according to Badboy :

image not archived: perf6ep.jpg

Granted you're getting most of the images off a cache, but this page comes to just under a meg. Gzip compression helps too :thumbsup:

QUOTE

The performance is probably ok considering the amount of crap you get sent when you download a page. It isn't the leanest of forums. Frames everywhere containing all sorts of information / ads / shouts etc.

But yeah, the front page is pretty bad compared to the rest of the forum.

thats what baffles me, as most of the stuff on the front page should be coming out of the mysql/php cache on the server...

QUOTE

out of interest, what version of Linux is being use, and what hardware?

Running Centos 3.5 on a 2.4 kernel
P4 2.8 HT, 1 Gig Ram and ATA drives :cry: on a 10 megabit link

dbbPosted: 8 Feb 2006, 12:26pm

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QUOTE(wojtek @ Feb 8 2006, 11:39 AM)

Granted you're getting most of the images off a cache, but this page comes to just under a meg. Gzip compression helps too :thumbsup:

that was three different pages.

QUOTE

thats what baffles me, as most of the stuff on the front page should be coming out of the mysql/php cache on the server...

I just did a few more tests, I think the first time you access the site from any direction (front page, directly onto a forum like "shoot the breeze", you get the slower access time. The application has to verify the user, work out the site display options, write audit trails, check for PMs, bring up user options etc.

But the main page is always significantly slower. I can't tell from this end, but it is could be an indexing issue. Have you checked for index or database fragmentation, or even index corruption? Maybe it is just poor design, and some of the data (site news?) is poorly bracketed ...

QUOTE

Running Centos 3.5 on a 2.4 kernel
P4 2.8 HT, 1 Gig Ram and ATA drives :cry: on a 10 megabit link

Do you have sar installed?

If not, what are the load averages from "uptime" and swapping info from "vmstat" and "iostat"?

If you had the cash, I'd always run a website of SCSI disks, the random read I/O rates can be twice as quick as those ATA drives ...

a few other things :

- Static HTML pages are served between 2 and 10 times faster than most php derived pages.
- If you are not already, look at using a php caching tool. You can get up to 100% better performance by removing compile times.
- Disable DNS lookups in your apache config file
- Don't use RAID 5