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Broadband Internet, Who, what, and how much?
reewindPosted: 29 Feb 2004, 5:28pm
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I'm in need of upgrading my connection to ADSL.

Who is everyone with and how do you find them? How much does it cost? Do you have any download limits?

Most places seem to be about $49.95 for a month, but it seems to be capped at a certain limit. I would be doing quite a bit of downloading of text, moreso than music or movies, but still feel that 500mb may not be enough? $79.95 is fucking expensive for not having a download limit though. (IMHO)

Can anyone recommend anything? Thanks in advance.
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PhortePosted: 29 Feb 2004, 5:33pm
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check www.whirlpool.net.au for all your ADSL needs.

i'm with Netspace and have been with them for over 2years now. Suni is too.

$99.95 gives me 20gb/month on 512/128. unlimited uploads and free peer-to-peer from other people on the SAIX or whatever its called.

there are a few providers now offering unlimited downloads but they either have speed shaping if you go over a certain amount or prioritised periods.

i prefer to know that im getting the speed i pay for and i never go over 20gb (the plan started off being 8gb/month then it upgraded to 11 or osmething then something then now its 20gb so im not complaining!)
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I'm unemployed now mate... $99.95 is a lot per month!
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PhortePosted: 29 Feb 2004, 5:38pm
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hehe again check out the whirlpool site. ALL adsl providers summed up. there are a few cheaper plans obviously with less restrictions but the im aware that leeching a lot/month isnt everyone's thing!
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node is about to release their revised plans.... and theyre feckin doozies! http://adsl.internode.on.net/pricing/padsl-march2004.htm

only way to go!
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QUOTE (Trucker @ Feb 29 2004, 06:38 PM)
Escapenet are doing 256/64 + 2GB download limit per month for $49.95.

:blink: how much for how much?!?!

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reewindPosted: 29 Feb 2004, 5:42pm
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Is that good?

(Remember I know notihng about computers)

Edit: that's 4 times more than 500 meg right? :|)
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not wanting to take away from rob's dinner.... but its rather poor...
For the same price you can get 12 gig through intergonad at the same speeds.

I have trouble using 12 gig per month, i mean it can be done but ya gotta go out of your way to do it, and chances are you may not even hit 2 gig (depends how much you like your pr0n) but I wouldnt really pay the same price for 10 gig less
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QUOTE (wojtek @ Feb 29 2004, 06:39 PM)
node is about to release their revised plans.... and theyre feckin doozies! http://adsl.internode.on.net/pricing/padsl-march2004.htm

only way to go!

what he said, internode is the bomb diggity
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256k download limit is much better than dial up modem speeds, and 2GB = 2000MB (your average mp3 is 5-6MB, so use that as an indicator as to judge if that download limit is suitable for your needs). A 6GB limit on the same speed is $59.95, 10GB is 69.95 and unlimited is $85.

Telstra provisioning is $135 and we can do you a Billion ADSL Modem for $89.

I believe some other places could be doing 265kbps a bit cheaper, but their download limits are smaller, and their customer service isn't a patch on ours.

We also provide free spam filtering for your email accounts (up to 5) and you can utilise up to 10MB of web space if you like.

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... my opinion again... but go for a capped plan, only as these "unlimited" plans tend to shape your traffic flow (ie, slow you down depending on how much you have downloaded)

500 meg is a joke
2 gig is lean
6 is better
12.... imo from what you described your main usage to be is more than ample.

plus the 'node seem to know what theyre doing
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QUOTE (wojtek @ Feb 29 2004, 06:39 PM)
node is about to release their revised plans.... and theyre feckin doozies! http://adsl.internode.on.net/pricing/padsl-march2004.htm

only way to go!

:saywhat: Awesome!
$49.95 for 256/64 with a 12Gb cap before they start slowing your downloads... Fuck it I'm paying about $35 a month now for unlimited dialup, I reckon I might switch to them...
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I reckon I'll be happy to wait 30 minutes on the phone for an extra 10 Gb a month ;)
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reewindPosted: 29 Feb 2004, 5:56pm
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Whats the difference between all the

256/64
512/128
512/512

etc etc

Is this connection speed?

Woj is this the one you are talking about?

PADSL-256-Unlimited-Red $49.95

As for the pron I'd be far more interested in music actually!
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QUOTE (Trucker @ Feb 29 2004, 06:51 PM)
Depends if you don't mind waiting 30 minutes on the phone before your call is answered or not ;)

Is that how long it takes with Escape Net?
You guys should really do something about it...

Node help desk wait times are no more than a minute, well each time ive called (once). Plus if the service is running fine... ya can stick ya fuckin helpdesk... up ya.....
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TruckerPosted: 29 Feb 2004, 5:58pm
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QUOTE (wojtek @ Feb 29 2004, 06:57 PM)
QUOTE (Trucker @ Feb 29 2004, 06:51 PM)
Depends if you don't mind waiting 30 minutes on the phone before your call is answered or not ;)

Is that how long it takes with Escape Net?
You guys should really do something about it...

Node help desk wait times are no more than a minute, well each time ive called (once). Plus if the service is running fine... ya can stick ya fuckin helpdesk... up ya.....

No, the phone is answered in three rings :P
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QUOTE (muffins @ Feb 29 2004, 06:50 PM)

$49.95 for 256/64 with a 12Gb cap before they start slowing your downloads... Fuck it I'm paying about $35 a month now for unlimited dialup, I reckon I might switch to them...

Dont need to pay for phonecalls either on ADSL? Is that right?

I'm $24.95 a month on a dodgy plan, often get dropouts and it is slow as shit. Due to dropouts and slowness I often find if I redial it gets quicker when it reconnects.

I would spend another $15-$25 a month on phonecalls so ADSL wouldn't end up costing me much more? Apart from initial set up fees of course.

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QUOTE (reewind @ Feb 29 2004, 06:56 PM)
Whats the difference between all the

256/64
512/128
512/512

etc etc

Is this connection speed?

Woj is this the one you are talking about?

PADSL-256-Unlimited-Red $49.95

As for the pron I'd be far more interested in music actually!

Yeh speeds...

the first is download speed the 2nd is upload....

256 is approx 22 KiloBYTES per second
512 is approx 52 Kilobytes/sec
etc...

the 2nd speed shouldnt really be important to you, unless you plan on sending data out... then go for the Symetric DSL... ie 512/512.

And thats the one im talking about... im on the 512 one at 12 gig a month and its ample for what I use.. plus has just dropped by $20 per month :thumbsup:

Your other costs as Mr Escapenet mentioned are...

$135 to telstra for line provisioning
$80-140 for a modem, cheap ones are usb... easy to set up... but many say theyre a bit poo. If you go for an ethernet one, you gotta plonk a network card into your pc before you can get set up. Most of the billion modems support both amd can possibly pick one up for $120 (ethernet/usb modem/router)

Then line filters... $10-25 per phone
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DimitriPosted: 29 Feb 2004, 6:03pm
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QUOTE (Trucker @ Feb 29 2004, 06:58 PM)
QUOTE (wojtek @ Feb 29 2004, 06:57 PM)
QUOTE (Trucker @ Feb 29 2004, 06:51 PM)
Depends if you don't mind waiting 30 minutes on the phone before your call is answered or not ;)

Is that how long it takes with Escape Net?
You guys should really do something about it...

Node help desk wait times are no more than a minute, well each time ive called (once). Plus if the service is running fine... ya can stick ya fuckin helpdesk... up ya.....

No, the phone is answered in three rings :P

the node helpdesk is awsome, only had to use them a handful of times but there quick to pick up and they get ya fixed in no time
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QUOTE (reewind @ Feb 29 2004, 07:01 PM)
QUOTE (muffins @ Feb 29 2004, 06:50 PM)

$49.95 for 256/64 with a 12Gb cap before they start slowing your downloads... Fuck it I'm paying about $35 a month now for unlimited dialup, I reckon I might switch to them...

Dont need to pay for phonecalls either on ADSL? Is that right?

I'm $24.95 a month on a dodgy plan, often get dropouts and it is slow as shit. Due to dropouts and slowness I often find if I redial it gets quicker when it reconnects.

I would spend another $15-$25 a month on phonecalls so ADSL wouldn't end up costing me much more? Apart from initial set up fees of course.

Yup.

When thinking about ADSL, weigh the cost of an ADSL modem + installation (if any) into it.

Having said that, remember that you won't need an extra phone line ($22) or the dialup costs ($15 - $20). So already you save around $40 a month (that's if you had that extra line for your dialup connection).

Either way you're paying a tiny bit extra for the convenience of faster downloads/uploads, no dropout, etc etc.
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Id have to agree with Phorte Netspace are a wicked ISP, i pay $70 for 512/128 - 8 gig a month and so far havent had any worries at all.

Just another thing look into buying your own equipment (modem, line filter etc) if needed, this could save you some much needed $$$ instead of buying them from an overpriced isp.
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hehehe... i got bigpond broadband. 10 gigs full speed/month for $54- coz we got fox and hm ph on telstra. our setup is working awesome. we got the modem into the router, 3 laptops all with wireless cards- the new sort (11g or whateva it's called- instead of 11b). it goes hard.
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"Full Speed"?

What speed is full speed? lol

Because I have Foxtel and our Home Phones and Mobiles are all with Telstra.. so I could get an uber bonus or something, dunno.. all depends on the speed (to see if it's worth looking into).
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QUOTE (Stunned @ Feb 29 2004, 08:25 PM)
Id have to agree with Phorte Netspace are a wicked ISP, i pay $70 for 512/128 - 8 gig a month and so far havent had any worries at all.

I guess the free peering is a good thing with netspace if you use it...

Since the telstra $29.95 plan there have been a few price shakeups in the pricing schedules... seems internode were pretty much the first few off the mark, making netspace's plan a bit pricy... but things may still change.

A lot of ISPs really need to revise their pricing schedules or i can see many churning away to the ones that have changed theirs.
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That internode looks pretty good Mr Woj. Am looking at a new puter soon & will definatley be going with some decent connection.

On that note, I might well ask you munters to give me some software tips or help setting shit up,, (out of the game for a while now so we'll see what happens!!)
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fuck the new node prices are looking good..

hell they just doubled my download limit on my netspace to 40gb/month w00t but no way im gonna use that much so might consider changing over smewhere else where its cheaper but still have the good dowlnoads (ie node's 32gb plan) but NO SPEED SHAPING
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shaping = poo.. but atleast you have the peace of mind of no excess costs...
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I'm not sure I understand/ or am reading this right.... Is speed shaping when the speed drops after you've exceeded like 500Mb download or something?
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Im on Ozemail 256k connection and have been for the last year and its been great. at 49.95 a month ive got unlimited downloads and uploads (downloads upto 20gig, beyond your connection is capped to 56k bastards) but it is quite hard to clock up 20gig even with your downloads permantly running, which is what i do. Other than that everything has been great. On average im recieveing around 25kbps download rates, depending on the location etc. Ozemail has also brought out ADSL 2 and charges 59.95 (only 10$ more!) for the 1g setup. Sounds like an upgrade is nearing for me....

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QUOTE (SiGO @ Jun 2 2005, 10:38 PM)
wasnt node mate, it was you. :P

No it was node and their feckin proxies.... the issues went away the day of my churn to WN.
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QUOTE (Betterman @ Jun 2 2005, 08:11 PM)
adsl2 = more porn

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QUOTE (Spadge @ Jun 2 2005, 01:02 AM)
im due to be migrated to adsl2+ very shortly....
cant wait

be sure to brag about what up/down connect speed your getting! I for one would like to know how it performs in Adelaide.
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QUOTE (DarrenJ @ Jun 2 2005, 01:24 AM)
I wonder when the smithfield server will be upgraded
oh well, I have 9months left with aztec, downloading something at 160kb/s atm...cant complain

Yeah Smithfield is an interesting case Darren. DSL is very popular up that way, as there are heaps of young families in the area, and lots of young couples & singles also.

Telstra reguarly run out of ports on the smithfield exchange - it's been upgraded at least twice in the last 6 months that i know of. They had over 600 ports available after the last upgrade (2 mths ago?), now there's only 199 left. (as of last week's DSL port availability report - 27 May 05)

You'd think it would have a good case to get DSLAM'd by internode/adam/kern or iinet/ozemail, with the former being more likely as they doing salisbury atm.

Backhaul is the issue though - I wonder how much it would cost them to run the backhaul a bit further up main north road (or wherever it runs) to do elizabeth/smithfield exchanges?

Elizabeth wouldn't have many broadband customers - too many elderly people and almost 700 ports still available, which hasn't changed since i got broadband about 9 months ago. I'm just hoping that if smithfield ever gets done, they can see their way to doing elizabeth on the drive back to the city 015_tongue.gif (highly unlikely, though)

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Hopefully someone knows the answer to this one...

Are there any ADSL2(+) providers that are using their own DSLAMs, but still using Telstra LACs? I know Internode are providing their own LACs an LNSs (well everything apart from the copper to the home really) but are other ISPs doing the same?

I can see a perfectly logical reason for still using a Telstra LAC and also for using your own. If there was an ISP using the Telstra LACs and beyond then Id sign up for them right now. There is a method to my madness.
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I think Adam may be doing this Mr Hill.

I could be wrong but thats the word on the street.
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No worries, let me know what you find out.
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I'm pretty sure Adam are using "fibre like" technology laid by ETSA where they cant shunt bandwidth between exchanges as needed.

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woj is on the money!

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hey all.. new to the whole broadband thing and just trying to get my head around it..

i'm looking to get ADSL 2+ [have checked i can get it and all that].. my question is about speeds and connecting wirelessly to the laptop i use at home..

802.11g should be able to cope with ADSL 2+ speeds, right? [54mbps vs 24mbps]

so that means that i should get full speed use wirelessly as long as i have a wireless modem..

i don't know much about both wireless networking or adsl so just trying to work out what's best for me..

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Fair question... but Wireless ethernet vs DSL is not an "apples for apples" comparison. Without going into too much detail, it will work fine, and you wont have any strife at all 001_smile.gif
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cool.. thx!

btw i'm thinking of getting the supplied modem on the plan i'm looking at and getting airport express.. that should work ok too right? works out cheaper than getting a wireless modem with the added benefits of being able to take it with me when i travel and stream music and stuff..
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just installed an tested my gf's new ADSL2 (Adam Internet), i was not impressed with the speeds at all, i dont know what all the hype with adsl2 is, my telstra cable absolutely destroys it!
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To get maximum performance from ADSL2+ you must live very close to the exchange and have very low db loss.

Cable is not comparable to ADSL2+ IF you live close enough to the exchange. A Cable connection will not get 24Mb/s.

The further you live away from the exchange the less chance of getting a decent connection (up around 24Mb/s). As with all internet access the speed that you download at also depends a lot on the connection the file is sent from.

ADSL2 will eventually be available to a lot more people (for instance regional areas) than cable is and allow for things like movies on demand.

It is a fantastic technology, but like anything it has its limitations.
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What speeds were you getting?
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...your all lucky. i cant even get a service provider to cater for broadband in my part of hallett cove. 002_sad.gif
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well with my telstra cable i can download a file off telstra game arena server at an off peak time at more than 1megabyte per sec, ive reached almost 2 actually. with my gfs adsl2, she lives in college park dont know where the nearest exchange is, but i tested it by logging into gamearena as my telstra username (so i get the fast download servers) and downloading the same file at around the same time, and i couldnt get better than 500kb a sec.
and sure if you live right next ot the exchange yuo can get fast adsl speeds, but most arent, and cable is theoreitcally faster (speed of light vs sound). im prob better because no1 else of my street uses the cable (my street has all old retired ppl on it)
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Surely it's more about the bandwidth available than the method of transmission? I'm a total noob to this stuff but you'd think regardless of whether you have electrons or photons zipping along your cable it's more about how many bits of information can be transmitted at the same time, than how fast each bit of information can be sent. Anyway, it's not like there is a fiber optic cable reaching into your cpu is it? You'd still have copper wire somewhere in the path
*awaits correction*

Based on speeds people in my area are getting with similar distances to the exchange, I'd expect at least 1.5 Megabytes / second, although I'm waiting to see just what this modem will handle and I'm prepared to accept that my maths is wrong 003_wink.gif

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with dsl you would, yes, but not with cable.

What the cable fans haven't told you that is that of course, if you have a few bandwidth leechers in your neighbourhood (constantly leeching) your fucked.

Some cable users in the US complain of near-dialup speeds (even for downloads) coz their neighbourhood is overloaded with leechers who never get offline.
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QUOTE (jjcoolaus @ Jun 22 2005, 11:17 PM)
with dsl you would, yes, but not with cable.

What the cable fans haven't told you that is that of course, if you have a few bandwidth leechers in your neighbourhood (constantly leeching) your fucked.

Some cable users in the US complain of near-dialup speeds (even for downloads) coz their neighbourhood is overloaded with leechers who never get offline.

yeah thats why i mentioned that in my area/street its all old people hence i am the only one that has cable. what does this mean? pings always < 100 in online gaming 001_smile.gif
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QUOTE (Betterman @ Jun 22 2005, 11:20 PM)
QUOTE (jjcoolaus @ Jun 22 2005, 11:17 PM)
with dsl you would, yes, but not with cable.

What the cable fans haven't told you that is that of course, if you have a few bandwidth leechers in your neighbourhood (constantly leeching) your fucked.

Some cable users in the US complain of near-dialup speeds (even for downloads) coz their neighbourhood is overloaded with leechers who never get offline.

yeah thats why i mentioned that in my area/street its all old people hence i am the only one that has cable. what does this mean? pings always < 100 in online gaming 001_smile.gif

thats pretty high, i get 5-10 in c.s...

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I get pings around 20 in cs:s on 1500 adsl
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QUOTE (Betterman @ Jun 22 2005, 11:07 PM)
and cable is theoreitcally faster (speed of light vs sound).

Sorry. No. Your cable is coaxial NOT fibre optic.

So not a case of light vs sound. Optical fibre is a lot faster than ADSL2+. Coaxial is not.

Coaxial cable even when not shared with other users in your street is not capable of anywhere near 24Mbps.

Muffins: ADSL ping will always be slightly higher than Cable.
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jealous of u guys.. i cant even run cs:s on my computer 002_sad.gif *kicks his vid card*

but yea i get pings of 14 on internode servers on good ol' normal cs on 1500
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i get 40-50 to iinet's CS servers, but they are over in perth (just proved it to myself by trace routes) - heading over iinet hops, then telstra hops, then back to wa.iinet hops - have to ask on whirlpool about that tomorrow - seems pretty fucked up routing for your own servers
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<100 is for overseas servers as well
aus servers, esp telstra i get around 5-10, which when matched with my |337 skills makes me an unstopable sniper 001_smile.gif
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why would you play overseas on 100ping? thats just retarded.

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QUOTE (Naked @ Jun 22 2005, 11:48 PM)
why would you play overseas on 100ping? thats just retarded.

< 100 i said, mayb if u were playing a game that wasn't very popular and didnt have any current australia servers with ppl in it
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Got the adsl2+ happening

Sync
Upstream Speed: 1023 kbps
Downstream Speed: 6417 kbps

DL file from internode mirror around 630KB/s

Not as fast as I was hoping but I'm further from the exchange than I thought, and apparently there are faster modems than the one I have too... still, I'm happy with over half a meg a second for now 001_smile.gif

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Haha, if everyone using adsl had a c splitter my job would be a lot easier. So hey it is my friend, until it does a dirty and cheats on me with my women.
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same here as it would stop alot of problem i get calls
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QUOTE(G__ @ May 7 2006, 11:51 PM)
OK serious question:

I am currently in a transitional phase between my esc.net ADSL and upgrading to Adam ADSL2.  I have followed all directions from both ISPs.. ie instructing Escape to cancel my account... and signed up wth Adam.

I am pretty sure I read on here and other places that it was only 1-2 days for Escpae to cancel my ADSL.  And then up to 2 weeks for Adam to connect my ADSL2 as they have to get something done with Telstra.

NOw its been fucking 2-3 WEEKS with no ADSL at all... I'm on dialup right now as I type this..  But worst yet is, I still have an adsl light on my router and a mate that works in IT says that it seems a 1500 connection is still present.  That makes sense with Adam saying they will let me know once Telstra tells them that the line is disconnected.  So it seems the flithy cunts at Escape are just not disconnecting me.  I have rung them three times, and they have said thats its a bit wierd that its still 'active' on their system, but should be turned off immediately.  I had the flu all last week, and come back and still nothing.

How long should it take to disconnect ADSL.  Are these cutns fking me hardcore or what?
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once cancellation request has been sent to T, codes can take up to 48 hours to remove.

if you're on ADSL2 hardware they can take up to 5 working days. I have no idea why, it's the same frigging process...

glad to hear you're online billy :thumbsup:
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QUOTE(Khem @ May 8 2006, 12:13 PM)
been with tpg on the 49.95 for 20gig/1.5mb plan for a while. ive just been told they arent gonna let me have that plan any more. they are either gonna charge me the same amt for 512, or $10 extra for half the downloads which is well ghey. can any recommend any similar kind of deals? dont really want anything more than a 6 month contract as may be moving or something...
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depending on your exchange for ADSL2..... home extreme value, $59.95, 20 gig downloads best bang for your buck with us

on 1.5, the cheapest we have is $59.95, it's unfortunate but you wont get too much under that for a 1.5 connection.

no contract, just an ETF of if you cancel within a 6 month period.


btw, dont you work for optus broadband?

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QUOTE(melly @ May 10 2006, 12:42 PM)
once cancellation request has been sent to T, codes can take up to 48 hours to remove.

if you're on ADSL2 hardware they can take up to 5 working days. I have no idea why, it's the same frigging process...

glad to hear you're online billy  :thumbsup:
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Not quite.

ADSL2+ disconnection requires a tech to go out to the exchange and physically unjumper them from the equipment.
ADSL1 is just a simple software disconnect on Telstras end, no Tech required.
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QUOTE(melly @ May 10 2006, 01:42 PM)
once cancellation request has been sent to T, codes can take up to 48 hours to remove.

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Its been 3 weeks :blink: Fuck up at Escape....Its done now... now waiting for Adam to connect me
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telstra also charge to have services disconnected from adsl2 ports i believe.
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btw, dont you work for optus broadband?
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used to, but their plans suck (they did improve a bit tho if your bundled) and i dont want a 24 month contract.
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splitters also add a little more stablity to the line, increase snr, and at times download speeds. So they're valuable to have even if you dont have many other devices on the line. Peace of mind.
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Just on this, I have a central splitter.

I am assuming I can take it with me when I move? Yes/no?

Fuckin thing cost $200 :crazy:

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Just on this, I have a  central splitter.

I am assuming I can take it with me when I move? Yes/no?

Fuckin thing cost $200  :crazy:
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Err... You had it installed by an electrician right?

If you move you'll need an electrician to remove it and install it at your new premises.
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Is there anyway I can check how fast my net connection is? I just hooked up with Internode and it seems like my downloads are incredibly weak - bout 6kb average. I got told the exchange is less than 1km away from where I live. I only have an inline adsl filter/splitter as a an in-wall socket thingy is not a viable option as this is a rental property. Any help?

Also...I need good sites where I can download stuff. Torrents, actual sites and stuff like that would be appreciated. Cheers. :)
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Do you have a service ID mate?

I can have a look for you if you like.
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whats a service ID?
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A letter followed by 6 numbers that will allow me to identify your service.

usually like H837293 or similar!
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Would it have anything to do with the property that I'm renting that it doesnt have one of those in-wall socket thingys? Cause my filter/splitter is plugged into the phone thingy.
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i bet techs/helpdesk staff love it when clients use the term "thingy"
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I use the term "thingy" coz I dont know how to describe the thing. Plus I dont know the proper word for it. Is it called a central splitter? Or in-wall phone socket?:(
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Its called a central splitter
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what's the difference between a central splitter and a central filter?

I know that one just plugs into your line and the other has to be installed by an austel approved tech, and that there is a significant cost difference.

When i first signed up with iinet, i was told i needed a "central filter" as well as a standard line filter coz i had 2 phones and my net connection - so the filter gets plugged into the first phone, the "central filter" gets plugged in to my pc and 2nd phone at the same time.

But not a central splitter - whats the diff?
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Central filter is usually an incorrect term for a inline splitter/filter. Which while they will do the trick are not so good if you have 4 or more devices on your phone line. They also dont work as well for ADSL2+.

A central splitter is a much higher quality filter/splitter that is installed where the phone service first enters your premises and then splits off sockets that are filtered for your phones or non filtered for your broadband.
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OK...I've got that inline filter/splitter connected to the wall and the modem and home phone connected to it. Upstairs I 've also got a home phone connected as well. Could this be the reason why I'm getting slow connection speeds? Also when I listen to the phone there seems to be some interference as well.
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You need filters on all your phones!
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How about if I unplug it...will that help? How much are filters anyway?
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$19 bux

Yeah you can try unplugging everything except the ADSL modem then seeing how you go.

Otherwise, like I said. Tech Support can run through some more advanced things with you.
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Yeah...that doesnt help. Still getting slow-ass d/l speeds. Oh well tech support should be calling me back in the next 24 hours. Thanks for the help.

One more thing: how do I check the net connection speed?
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Should be able to look it up by going into the modems settings.

Usually means browsing to http://192.168.1.1

However check the modems instructions cos I havent used one of the Open Networks ones yet.

Also the speed you get will depend largely on whether or not the source can pump out high speeds.

A lot of websites will have rate limits set around 150kb so that people dont flood them.

And if you're using Torrents, well theyre about as reliable as.. well... something thats not very reliable.

To really guage what sort of speeds you're getting try downloading a file from the Internode mirror as this will give a much better idea of what your connection is capable of without outside interference.

http://mirror.internode.on.net
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sigo i mgiht have to hook me up with some adsl2

node adsl has mega crap latley, dunno if i wanna get rid of this 4port router tho.

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To sum it up:

Go Adam or Node, and don't go near bigpond

Adam for slightly cheaper but very similar speeds, less professional outfit/more amaturish.

Node for a little bit dearer but better customer service and far less likely to fuck shit up
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Node for a little bit dearer but better customer service and far less likely to fuck shit up
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I just got connected at my new address and did a test on the line, now can anyone help me understand what it all means? :|)
I only have 1500 at the moment but hopefully adsl2+ is on the way here soon and I want to know what speeds to expect.

downstream
relative capacity occupation: 15%
noise margin downstream: 45.0 db
output power upstream: 5.0 dbm
attenuation downstream: 20.5 db

upstream
relative capacity occupation: 31%
noise margin upstream: 24.0 db
output power downstream: 18.5 dbm
attenuation upstream: 11.5 db