Football vs the World

i agree with mike

its no different than people saying d&b is better than hard house or trance is better than house

each to their own...but theres plenty of room for ALL SPORTS

hey i love AFL and it is my favourite sport just in front of Cricket....
i'll admit i am not a big soccer fan but that doesnt mean i dont LIKE the game or wont watch it and bag it because "afl is better than soccer"

it seems to me that its always the hardcore soccer lovers that always have to try and bring down AFL because quite frankly... soccer just isnt as big as AFL in this country.... this may change in the future but the only reason soccer is BIG right now is because of Australias involvement in the world cup

Its like Macintosh users always have to tell people that Windows users suck because windows a gay o/s
why do they do this?? because they are in the minority of people who DONT use microsoft products

EACH TO THEIR OWN
there isnt a competition between codes... they can all co-exist and PEOPLE CAN LIKE MORE THAN ONE SPORT!!

anyone who thinks futbol has more skill then AFL needs to get their head checked

fooody: hand eye foot body co-ordination at rapid speed, amazing vertical leap needed

soccer: foot eye at slower speed, still quick but slower

you want real skill though try hitting a cricket ball with 0.3seconds reaction time or putting a round ball in a round hole only slightly bigger then it 10ft in the air

ice hockey/normal hockey, try to skate fast with a stick in your hand controling a fucking puk that travels at some insane speed, while getting legaly cleaned up every time your near the damn thing...

fair play to soccer players, alot of skill and stamina, and the shit they do with the round ball is amazing but it doesnt come close 'skill wise' imo to alot of other sports..

This post has been edited by Dimitri: Jun 16 2006, 11:49 PM

Ill deal with this thread in a few days time...

I cant really process all that info from Spadgewind just yet but I will ask when the next AFL World Cup is.

errr i think you have tactics and skill confused

im talking about what the body has to do to produce the correct movement for the ball/bat/racket/whatever to compete at the highest level......

what the mind has to compute and how fast it has to compute it and the reactions of the body parts...

the more of your body you use the more skill you need... understand?

This post has been edited by Dimitri: Jun 17 2006, 12:32 AM

But I do go to every game at Hindmarsh?

There's plenty other soccer finatics who have nothing to do with the local league!

Every game would be a lockout and they'd be queueing for a week before the game if it were the case..

At the end of the day at least the AFL players dont go down like pansies and roll around on the ground like the have just been shot with a handgun and then spring back to life 2 minutes later.

GAF about tactics or whatever, IMO that makes soccer or footy as it is known incredibly lame and you will NEVER change my mind about it, no matter how much you bollock on about skill.

Yes, what people like Ronaldo and Co can do with a ball is fucking amazing, but I still find it fairly one dimensional compared to watching somebody like Michael Jordan in full flight. I readily admit that I don't appreciate it as much as someone that has played the game and you could count the hours of soccer I have watched on one hand.

The AFL vs Soccer argument is stupid, great post by Mikey. Both codes obviously require intense skill levels in the highest form. For you people saying AFL has no skill have you even watched a game in the last few years? Ever tried hitting a rapidly moving target from 50+ metres away with an oval shaped ball while yourself running at full speed and being chased? The players in the AFL do it consistently, the level of skill in Aussie Rules these days is unbelievable.

Actually I get a bit sick of the high and mighty attitude of soccer fans and how their game is so much more skillful than any other. The skills are just more specialised to the feet, head etc.

how can you say that G__ i'm really surprised you like soccer actually

Why wouldn't you like a sport (afl) where men score every few minutes with little effort? I would've thought that'd be right up your alley... :shear:

Yeh i conform to the point of view that 'how can AFL be football if you use your hands'

Also think the argument about Football Vs AFL is stupid, they both have their moments of Flair and goodness and weakness in the gameplay, doesnt every sport :tongue:

Socer is football to me and used to love playing it, but I honestly prefer watching the Rugger, coz I like to see cnuts get totally squashed :nugget: :w00t:

This post has been edited by Turbulence: Jun 20 2006, 12:41 PM

If Aussie soccer is going to be so strong in years to come, why's it getting compared to AFL anyway? The only national competition we have is the A League and that's played during summer, cricket season.

I know this will be misinterpreted but the way I look at it, during summer every week we can go to a game and see the aussie cricketers playing an international team with some big drawcards. The domestic competition is very strong too because those that play overseas come home and play for their state or for Australia in summer. Likewise even though AFL is only played in Australia, we are lucky enough to be able to go to a game and see genuine superstars play every week. Same goes for Rugby - our best players aren't playing overseas...they're playing here each week.

As I mentioned earlier on, soccer has that disadvantage that you just about never see Australia play, and when they do it's once every couple of years at the MCG, not around the whole country on a regular basis like you can see AFL, cricket or rugby. Cricket has the boxing day test, Rugby has tri nations all the time, not to mention state of origin, AFL has Anzac day and the Grand Final. Hell, throw in the the Melbourne Cup even. Soccer has no ongoing event that makes Australia stop and take notice for a day like those events do.

If you go and see the A League the standard of the competition is poor because the genuine superstars go overseas where the lucurative money is. Same goes for basketball and that's why basketball will never be really strong in Australia. Australian soccer just doesn't have any money, nor can everyone see the games, and it's superstars play. Until this changes (which personally I don't think it ever will because our economy can't support the big player wages) then soccer will never take over as the most dominant sport in Australia.

Put yourself in the shoes of an 8 year old, if you can go to the footy and see judd play and destroy teams every week, or the cricket and see warney bowl flippers and punter smashing them over the fence all day compared to seeing Kewell and Viduka on TV and never in the flesh, then 9/10 their hero is going to be the players they can actually go and see playing the game live and they'll start playing that sport so they can try to be like their idols. If a kid here likes Tredders or McLeod, all they'd have to do to meet them and get a signature, a pat on the back and a few words of encouragement is turn up to a training session and approach them.

It's a big, big boost for young kids trying to work out who their heros are and the sports they like and want to play.

This post has been edited by reewind: Jun 20 2006, 01:55 PM

yeh but now the FFA is in asia its all about to change, shitloads of internationals each year, adelaide united has qualified for the asian champions league which is amassive event and a shitload of money involved and star players in each team... the whoile landscape is changing mike due to this shift into asia

the standard of everything has improved tenfold... dwight york plays in the a league for gods sake!!!

just wait and see ... the advantage i see football having is its appeals to every state and city ... afl appeals to mainly wa , sa and vic laegue to nsw and qld, it may not be as popular but it certainly reaches a wider market atm

This post has been edited by subbo: Jun 20 2006, 01:52 PM