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Electro Thread, The sound of now
SentaPosted: 16 Jun 2006, 10:22pm
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QUOTE(ProfessaB @ Jun 16 2006, 10:07 PM)


Same fucking sounds, in a different order, pfft  :doze:


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Same thing could be said about any style of dance music really

If you listen to good electro theres no way that you would say that.
KingeePosted: 16 Jun 2006, 10:31pm
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QUOTE(Mr S @ Jun 16 2006, 09:59 PM)
Yes I was playing it the other night (even though you didn't show) :tongue: but it doesn't mean it is taking over the city. I buy and play a bit as I work at some places that have electro and breaks in their formula. There have been people pushing breaks in Adelaide for nearly 10 years and I am sure if it was going to be a major force on a regular basis then it would have been by now. I have loads of older breaks from around 97 when most wouldn't even have known what it was and I can appreciate it still today as well as the current stuff but it won't be as big as it deservers to be here. Electro House (what they call the wobbly bassline house of today) on the other hand is peaking now and will be done and dusted by then end of 2007
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Yeah sorry about not showing, will try harder next time as I am interested...

Well the people pushing the various genres in the past weren't Kingee now were they... You've known me for how many years now Jarrod, you of all people should know I am a force to be reckoned with...

I SAY IM ELECTROSTATIC !!!!!!
Mr SPosted: 16 Jun 2006, 10:32pm
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QUOTE(Senta @ Jun 16 2006, 10:22 PM)
Same thing could be said about any style of dance music really

If you listen to good electro theres no way that you would say that.
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But you class Mylo - No More Conversations as electro.. funny that
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QUOTE(Senta @ Jun 16 2006, 11:22 PM)
Same thing could be said about any style of dance music really

If you listen to good electro theres no way that you would say that.
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NOPE!!! Most yes, but one thing that hooks me to Trance is the music is quite often written as instruments, played from start to finish, and the beats just looped over the top to create a rhythm. Alot of the tunes I enjoy most, and play most are very guitar, piano, keyboard orientated, yes made ELECTRONCALLY but not just loops, more Classical orientated than synthesied loops.

Dont make me start loading samples god damn it!!!!!! :tongue:

Cutting house and electro tracks into 3 min radio edits aint always hard, but cutting a 9 minute quality trance tune into a radio edit without losing the melody, breakdown etc usually aint possible :tongue:

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Adrian-VPosted: 16 Jun 2006, 10:39pm
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QUOTE(Mr S @ Jun 16 2006, 10:32 PM)
But you class Mylo - No More Conversations as electro.. funny that
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its Electro cheez isnt it Mr.S ?
SentaPosted: 16 Jun 2006, 10:46pm
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QUOTE(Mr S @ Jun 16 2006, 10:32 PM)
But you class Mylo - No More Conversations as electro.. funny that
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It is defiantely electro, just because the charts happened to pick on it and it got thrashed out on nova doesnt make it a bad track. I actually really liked it when it came out, got a bit sick of it very quickly though.

and its not even by mylo


QUOTE(ProfessaB @ Jun 16 2006, 10:35 PM)
NOPE!!! Most yes, but one thing that hooks me to Trance is the music is quite often written as instruments, played from start to finish, and the beats just looped over the top to create a rhythm.  Alot of the tunes I enjoy most, and play most are very guitar, piano, keyboard orientated, yes made ELECTRONCALLY but not just loops, more Classical orientated than synthesied loops.

Dont make me start loading samples god damn it!!!!!!  :tongue:

Cutting house and electro tracks into 3 min radio edits aint always hard, but cutting a 9 minute quality trance tune into a radio edit without losing the melody, breakdown etc  usually aint possible :tongue:
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In my opinion trance sounds pretty similar, all i hear when i listen to it is thumping beats, driving bassline followed by some synths and maybe vocals. But i don't listen to trance so my opinion is worthless, what i was getting at is if you listen to and get into electro you probly wont think every track sounds the same.

but you might!
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QUOTE(Senta @ Jun 16 2006, 10:46 PM)
It is defiantely electro
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It's definitley not.. it's definitley cheesy wobbly bassline house music.
That is all it is. Compare it to the mixes I posted up and you will see what true electro really is
dbbPosted: 17 Jun 2006, 8:19am
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Electro is a fairly broad term, so yes, Mylo does fall under the electro umbrella - the same way that Kylie Minogue releases tracks you could arguably could "house music".

But Mylo is certainly not Drexciya or AUX-88, or even Trentemoller for that matter.

One good thing about artists like Mylo and Felix Da Housecat and Ladytron and Trentemoller and Tiga is that they are pushing electro sounds out to the general public.

If they like that sound, then they can dig deeper and find Miss Kitten, and deeper still and discover Anthony Rother or Larry McCormick or the Hacker or Frequenzberater or whoever.

I do think electro has a bigger chance in this city than breakz. The key difference is that breaks is not very big anywhere (except maybe Sydney), whilst electro is absolutely massive in central europe.

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KingeePosted: 17 Jun 2006, 8:28am
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Progressive or Stagnent

Your Choice..........
archon99Posted: 17 Jun 2006, 1:50pm
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I'm probably retreading what has been said before but here goes....

Like every genre there's good electro and there's bad electro, much like that current other obsession 'minimal.' Just because its got a distorted bassline doesn't make it electro, let alone a good track. The problem is that when big tracks come out such as Mylo 'No More Conversation' or TV Rock 'Flaunt It' which aren't necessarily bad tracks (and may even be quite good) less *ahem* discerning punters go out and all they want to hear are tracks that sound the same. Witness for instance how Stardust 'Music Sounds Better With You' became more or less the template for house music from 98 onwards. The problem this brings is that as the market gets saturated with substandard so called 'electro,' 'minimal' or whathaveyou as producers and labels rush out to appease fickle tastes, punters eventually get bored with the sound and move on to 'the next big thing. I actually can't think of anything more boring or painful than listening to hours upon end of roughly the exact same thing.

Every genre goes through this backlash and some have experienced it for far longer than others.

Personal aside: The whole 'progressive is a four letter word' debate bores me to tears considering pretty much everyone who says it has no idea what it means to be 'progressive' in the first place. Just because it sounded like that 5 years ago doesn't mean it sounds like that now - thats kinda the point...

Yes there are strong electro elements creeping into every genre but thats only natural. Once the inevitable change comes then that will be incorporated and bastardised but it won't mean that electro is dead or has ever been. Good music will always be good music and its up to listeners - whether they be casual listeners, avid fans or (maybe especially) DJs - to know the difference and not shut their ears to something just because of how it is labelled.

There was a point to all this but I seem to have run onto a totally different tangent. Ummm... but in summary: Electro for the sake of electro = Bad. Good track that just happens to be electro = Good.

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Mr SPosted: 17 Jun 2006, 3:58pm
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QUOTE(Kingee @ Jun 17 2006, 08:28 AM)
Progressive or Stagnent

Your Choice..........
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Well it's all beginning to sound very stagnant to me tash as so many tunes have the same bassline structure and even the same sounds.. shit this is going to start dying like hard house :lol: So that will leave the question of what train will be coming along next to jump on??

Mal, did you cut and paste that post from somewhere? :tongue: :grin:
Agree with what your saying though :thumbsup:


OK my last comment on this Electro debarcle is that it is just house music with a fat wobbly arse end hence the name "Electro House". I suppose by listening to electro for over 20 years and not only for the last year makes my view on things different to pretty much everyone else

:drama:


KingeePosted: 17 Jun 2006, 3:59pm
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Rumour has it that two PUNTERS are working on something ELECTROFYING....

August is the month where our dreams and aspirations come true...

Electro forces both locally and interstate are eager to join the crew...

Stay tuned if you want to join the dreamers in making something happen...

WE ARE GOING TO ELECTROFY THIS CITY LIKE IT OR NOT !!!!

I say I like it but what do you say ???? We will wait and see shall we ????
NTrancePosted: 17 Jun 2006, 4:07pm
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Electro is shit!

It has already ruined enough techno tracks to be banished for ever! I thought the idea of going out to a club was to dance and have a good time, not stroke your chin whilst listening to hours of beeps on an empty dancefloor.
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all the best and may your dreams come true
ProfessaBPosted: 17 Jun 2006, 4:14pm
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QUOTE(Mr S @ Jun 17 2006, 04:58 PM)

OK my last comment on this Electro debarcle is that it is just house music with a fat wobbly arse end hence the name "Electro House". I suppose by listening to electro for over 20 years and not only for the last year makes my view on things different to pretty much everyone else

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totally agree. Can't believe people class it as a whole "genre" within itself.
Too many people hear that wobbly 808 and think, that must be track "electro"

I have many a tech trance track which samples the same sound, but I certainly do NOT class these tracks as "electro", its full on tech trance!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm not sure how one bassline gets it own genre :blink: when really its just a house track with an electro stab thrown in. And a fuckin repetitive stab at that!!!

Dont you guys get sick of hearing the same shit over and over ???
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ProfessaB ... you are ignorant.

Listen to Anthony Rother and Drexciya and The Hacker and tell me they sound the same.

It would be like me listening to Martin Solveig and Bob Sinclar and announcing that all house music sounds the same.

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QUOTE(dbb @ Jun 17 2006, 06:05 PM)
ProfessaB  ... you are ignorant.

Listen to Anthony Rother and Drexciya and The Hacker and tell me they sound the same.

It would be like me listening to Martin Solveig and Bob Sinclar and announcing that all house music sounds the same.
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ignorance is bliss
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QUOTE(Mr S @ Jun 17 2006, 03:58 PM)
Mal, did you cut and paste that post from somewhere?  :tongue:  :grin:
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Its amazing the things you are capable of when procrastinating from study :tongue:
KingeePosted: 17 Jun 2006, 5:42pm
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QUOTE(Mr S @ Jun 17 2006, 04:07 PM)
all the best and may your dreams come true
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Thank you Jarrod....
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QUOTE(ProfessaB @ Jun 17 2006, 05:10 PM)
ignorance is bliss
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awareness is rational.

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Have you ever had the sense that you are about to hear something that will change your life forever? Sometimes, it seems, you'd rather stay comfortably ignorant. You've been living this way for so many years, who wants to change now? "I'll pretend I didn't know there was truth around the corner and just turn the other way." The fact is, it's easier not to listen in the first place, then to have to deny a truth we already know.

Do this sound familiar? "I would rather not listen, I would rather not read the books." Why? "Because it might be true." So? "Then I will have to change"! But if it is true won't it be better for you? "Yes, but at this moment I don't know it's true!"

As funny as this sounds, we all do it - every day! We avoid looking. Because we don't want to know. We distort reality to conform to what we feel like doing. Our definition of "good" becomes that which we happen to be doing.

    "Two people shoot their arrows in the bulls-eye. One is a master archer, the other draws a circle around wherever the arrow lands."

Denial can only be temporary.



KingeePosted: 17 Jun 2006, 5:56pm
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dbb is on the money.... I really must meet you, I need my groove is in the heart mixes....
Benny_BlancoPosted: 17 Jun 2006, 6:08pm
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:shear: alsong all the people who support the underground elektro and not that poxy shit they pass as elektro :nugget: then everything is cool banana's. I mean i'd rather see an elektro set with elektro lovers in the room who appriciate it, then some fags going wow this techno music is good cos they have no idea bout it :lol:

my 2 cents
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where does everyone else get their tracks from apart from beatport which I have been using for awhile.
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If I told you, I'd have to kill you ;)

Seriously though try 3 Beat Digital and Magnetic Grooves. Their interface is a cunt to work with but if you persevere there are some top first release tracks to be had.

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QUOTE(archon99 @ Jun 18 2006, 12:19 PM)
If I told you, I'd have to kill you ;)
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Im just waiting for you to come flying through my window with a crossbow :shear: :lol:
KingeePosted: 18 Jun 2006, 12:57pm
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QUOTE(Benny_Blanco @ Jun 18 2006, 10:57 AM)
where does everyone else get their tracks from apart from beatport which I have been using for awhile.
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I have a great source that is amazing I'll send you the link... Leigh Leigh is the electro king...
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QUOTE(Kingee @ Jun 18 2006, 01:57 PM)
I have a great source that is amazing I'll send you the link... Leigh Leigh is the electro king...
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thanx :kiss:
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QUOTE(Benny_Blanco @ Jun 18 2006, 10:57 AM)
where does everyone else get their tracks from apart from beatport which I have been using for awhile.
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djdownload
release records

always some good buys to be had there.

big fan of richard dinsdales work of late.

the current trend is electrosomething... as what is being played on the radio etc.. is so far from 'electro' it's not funny.

i like electrohouse for example.
mellyPosted: 18 Jun 2006, 8:53pm
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trentemoller is hot.

that is all.
Nic BorrelliPosted: 18 Jun 2006, 9:03pm
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QUOTE(archon99 @ Jun 18 2006, 11:19 AM)
If I told you, I'd have to kill you ;)

Seriously though try 3 Beat Digital and Magnetic Grooves. Their interface is a cunt to work with but if you persevere there are some top first release tracks to be had.
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ahhh my secret sites i didnt think ppl knew about, especially MG lol... good stuff to be found there

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