World Cup 2006

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World Cup 2006, Lets Fuckin 'Ave It

ReFusePosted: 13 Jun 2006, 5:59pm

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I'm not a big fan of soccer but I do get into any sport that has the best players in the world in the one country fighting for the top prize.

After reading all this thread well the last days worth. there are 3 points I want to make.

1. Low scoring keeps you on the edge of you seat but the down side to it is one side can have 80% of play and be unlucky not to get 3 or so goals. And then the other team who have had 20% of play get a lucky goal like Japan did last night. Is that fair I don't think so.

2. Lets talk about the rules why not make the goals a little higher or wider like 30cm, you would still see the fast play but you would also see scores of 5 or so goals regularly.

3. Being a low scoring game means your team is always in with a chance and that equals good viewing for all the fans through the hole game, no one leaves early like the AFL where fans go home with 20 mins left cos there team is getting flogged.

reewindPosted: 13 Jun 2006, 6:10pm

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QUOTE(Dimitri @ Jun 13 2006, 05:46 PM)

no one has actualy explained to mike how the offside rule works, which is what i think he is asking for, basicly in attack you can not run infront of your defender before the ball is kicked, you have to be behind the player, the ball has to be kicked (hopefully to your advantage) and you as an attacker need speed, agility and cunning to get it to your advantage and hopefully score a goal

So once its left the players boot you can run in front of your opponent? So someone can bomb it long and the minute he hits it you can be in front?

G, only because you bring AFL into it again I'll try to challenge one of your comments. AFL is a contact sport, injuries happen. If its fair, you will never get rubbed out just because someone gets injured, regardless of the period of time the injured player is going to be out of the game for.

Atleast we agree on the shootout :thumbsup:

SentaPosted: 13 Jun 2006, 6:11pm

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QUOTE(dbb @ Jun 13 2006, 05:50 PM)

Here is the offside rule explained, for AFL players :

… The female shopper in front of you has seen them also and is eyeing them with desire. Both of you have forgotten your purses. It would be totally rude to push in front of the first woman if you had no money to pay for the shoes. The shop assistant remains at the till waiting. Your friend is trying on another pair of shoes at the back of the shop and sees your dilemma.

She prepares to throw her purse to you. If she does so, you can catch the purse, then walk round the other shopper and buy the shoes. At a pinch she could throw the purse ahead of the other shopper and, whilst it is in flight, you could nip around the other shopper, catch the purse and buy the shoes. Always remembering that until the purse had 'actually been thrown' it would be plain wrong to be in front of the other shopper.

good one :grin:

trashy_chicaPosted: 13 Jun 2006, 6:12pm

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:lol: i love how mayday has made a new thread ;)

the ball has to be between u n the goal, unless there are two defending players there instead. thats how offside works.

MaydayPosted: 13 Jun 2006, 6:19pm

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QUOTE(reewind @ Jun 13 2006, 06:10 PM)

So once its left the players boot you can run in front of your opponent? So someone can bomb it long and the minute he hits it you can be in front?

Yes, very much so. Defenders try the offside trap to counter this.

dbbPosted: 13 Jun 2006, 6:21pm

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The offside trap is a bad thing, IMHO.

BettermanPosted: 13 Jun 2006, 7:04pm

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yes defenders try to coutner it by junping forward when they anticipate a through ball to strikers. however if they miss out by just a cm the player will still be on side an they will be caught out!

G__Posted: 13 Jun 2006, 7:30pm

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Just saw the highlights again on SBS and still have a half chub
What a fkn moment! :gasp:

Lets hope Brazil pump Croatia tonight... sucks its the late game

In other news, I am on FIRE with my betting.. turned $30 tab with Centrebet to over $100 already! Have no tips on tonights games though.. crap odds ;)

hexPosted: 13 Jun 2006, 7:30pm

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congrats to the aussies, good result. everything has already been said about the game so i'll leave it at that.

the czechs were very impressive, possibly the best performance i've seen and i haven't missed a game yet. the arse has picked up a great player in rosiky. pity about Koller he colud be great loss.

italy weren't that impressive and being english i'm disappointed with our performance so far, we were shit! We didn't look like scoring and the only saving grace was the performances of gerrard and joe cole.

hexPosted: 13 Jun 2006, 7:32pm

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QUOTE(G__ @ Jun 13 2006, 07:30 PM)

In other news, I am on FIRE with my betting.. turned $30 tab with Centrebet to over $100 already! Have no tips on tonights games though.. crap odds ;)

my quote to steve last night at your place,
"it's only a gambling problem if you lose and G isn't so it's not a problem"

NTrancePosted: 13 Jun 2006, 7:33pm

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QUOTE(mich @ Jun 13 2006, 10:01 AM)

fucking loved watching the game... got pretty fired up over that bullshit jap goal.. as if that should have been allowed... sucked in to them and the aussie 3 goal fight back.. I was seriously worried when the ref let that thru, thought he had it in for the aussie's because of that bad press rap (aussies are too rough or some such crap).. schwartzer (sp??) needed to be a bit more focused i thought, he usually does way better than that. I'd have been put off too with that fake jap goal tho.... all round good effort by the roo's, pretty disappointed with Viduka though... seemed a bit lethargic and didn't put as much effort in... maybe that's just me but yeah, some choice shots at goal missed needlessly IMO... he's a tall lad, just kick the ball over the little jap fuckers!!!

all those yellows... like alexb said.. what happens with that in terms of the next game??

I am impressed with your soccer knowledge mich :-)

If a player gets another yellow card in the next game, they automatically miss the game after, so if any of the already booked Aussies get booked again against Brazil they will miss the Croatia game.

... as for player performances, Guus got it right again!

- Cahill was not fit enough to play a full game ... hence his coming off the bench at the right time.
- Viduka had probably his best game for Aus, he had no support from midfield and was a lone
striker, he held the ball up brilliantly.
- Kewell was out of position due to lack of match fitness, he would never have been able to run
the wing all afternoon in that heat, his presence alone was worth his place in the team.
- Wilkshire was on the pitch for two reasons - his stamina and his physical presence, he may not
have been a great attacking force, but he was there to stop their wingers running at our
defence (I think Japan had one shot on target ... enough said!)
- Chipperfield was a little disappointing, he can be brilliant on the overlap, but I suspect he was
under instructions to curtail his attacking instincts.
- Schwarzer was pretty ordinary ... but he earned a bad day after his Holland and Uruguay
heroics
- Breciano was pretty ordinary, as was Emerton (again)
- Grella did an excellent enforcers role.
- Aloisi great goal, great to have a big game player like him to bring on.

No one will look forward to playing us now, not just for our ability, but for our stamina, Guus has worked his magic yet again.

ReFusePosted: 13 Jun 2006, 7:39pm

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Good Review NTrance

hexPosted: 13 Jun 2006, 8:03pm

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QUOTE(NTrance @ Jun 13 2006, 07:33 PM)

... as for player performances, Guus got it right again!

I disagree, in part anyway, sure cahill wasn't fit enough to start but having emerton playing in the middle was a stupid idea, he was never going to do anything there skoko would have done a much better job and if i'm not mistaken is fit.. hiidinks insistance on playing viduka as a lone striker pisses me esp when he hasn't got someone there to support him. that was proven when kennedy came on australia looked much better. yes viduka was good but he could have been much better if he'd had support. i was also suprised at australia's insistance to go through the middle on most occassions, surely with the height advantage they would have played the ball wide and got a few crosses in.

josh kennedy was great when he came on and cahill and aloisi's impact goes without saying. so yeah guus got it right but only after making changes and having the balls to go all out in attack. still they played well and i'd rather australia's performance than the one i got from england on saturday cos we were terrible.

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dbbPosted: 13 Jun 2006, 9:39pm

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QUOTE(G__ @ Jun 13 2006, 07:30 PM)

Lets hope Brazil pump Croatia tonight... sucks its the late game

no, it is an early game. You go to sleep at 9:30pm, and wake up at 4am. You record the France game for later.

Easy.

G__Posted: 13 Jun 2006, 10:04pm

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Thats soft... i'm watching very game as usual!

MaydayPosted: 13 Jun 2006, 10:29pm

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I think we should sack Guus and put Hex in charge.

DecepticonPosted: 13 Jun 2006, 10:29pm

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did they just play the korean anthem twice? :lol:

poor togo's

p.s howd their supporters afford to get to germany? yet alone a ticket? government funded?

Nic BorrelliPosted: 13 Jun 2006, 10:37pm

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i dont see how bresciano was disappointing.... he did fairly well when on, him and grella playing together really strengthen the team

SpadgePosted: 13 Jun 2006, 10:43pm

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Bresciano is still obviously struggling from an ear infection although he was serviceable last night

a couple of his attempts were a bit ordinary though
Viduka put a top back heel in front of him and he just kinda poked it straight at the keeper rather than giving it a hoof

MaydayPosted: 13 Jun 2006, 11:03pm

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Holy Shit...

Didnt expect Togo to score against Korea.

G__Posted: 13 Jun 2006, 11:07pm

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Top goal too. Good on them!

MaydayPosted: 13 Jun 2006, 11:10pm

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Id prefer Togo to win but I dont want to ruin my tips!

G__Posted: 13 Jun 2006, 11:24pm

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oh fk tips! hope i did them... i've been on fire!

G__Posted: 13 Jun 2006, 11:26pm

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argh! 6 from 8 for the start then no tips for the next 8 games!
ah fuck it

t23Posted: 14 Jun 2006, 12:46am

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KOREA! KOREA! KOREA! :D

MaydayPosted: 14 Jun 2006, 6:26am

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Good show by Hrvatska. Brasil arent invincible. But how good will G__s mates be when they play us? Hopefully Japan can do us a favour in the meantime.

sakveePosted: 14 Jun 2006, 10:57am

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Did anyone watch the France game?

dbbPosted: 14 Jun 2006, 11:00am

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I recorded it on the topfield and watched it this morning after the Brazil match.

Poor babies didn't like the heat. Both teams were just going through the motions. Boring.

sakveePosted: 14 Jun 2006, 11:22am

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hmmm, are we going to see another first round exit for the French, lets hope so!

Got it on the pvr, will watch tonight.

LovelyDriftPosted: 14 Jun 2006, 12:17pm

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I'm well keen to see how the Krauts far against the Poles tonight!

Spewing I woke up to watch Brazil Vs Croatia, not a very exciting game to watch at that hour of morning :doze: