Winter Enchanted. What would you prefer?

QUOTE (lab4rock @ Jul 18 2005, 04:30 PM)

Yere but i myself dont like the idea of day partys and alot of other ppl well i wont so dont like but find it hard due to work but at the night alot of ppl would be attracted to that idea and yere the sounds of a bar sounds ok as that will all so maybe attract more ppl but then once again it might attract mainstream clubs and cause some problems but hey im all up for a night party at the entertainment centre i really think that it can be pulled off and as for saying we have been told it cost heaps yere it does but would the enchanted crew even consider it itif the thought it was unlikely it could work*maybe thats just my wsihful thinking*ppl start voting lets make this happen

Mate, the full stop key is just above the space bar and a bit to the right, just like this.

Its heaps handy cause it means you can take breaths between sentences

well I think the truth can be seen when the biggest events at HEAVEN have been ALL Trance acts/ 4 Strings had em lining upto BP, Tiesto had em lining up to Noarlunga and AVB had em lined upto Moana beach.
HELLO, its not fucking brain surgery.

And ODDY, of the 150,000 + people that listen to DANCE music in Adelaide (as seen in a comparable survey report conducted late last year), I cant say Ive seen a dance music event with more than 7000 people. So why aren't the other 140,000 plus people attending enchanted ???????????

out of curiosity - what numbers did twotribes get?

that would be a reasonably tru representation of the numbers that attend an event in adelaide, as it covered basically all music styles, with house, trance, hard dance and a bit of hardcore represented.

QUOTE (ProfessaB @ Jul 18 2005, 04:36 PM)

And ODDY, of the 150,000 + people that listen to DANCE music in Adelaide (as seen in a comparable survey report conducted late last year), I cant say Ive seen a dance music event with more than 7000 people. So why aren't the other 140,000 plus people attending enchanted ???????????

Coz they're fucking soft cocks!

So boys is that 300 votes for Entertainment Centre or 300 votes total...

Not that it really matter that this rate 350 votes should us over the line in both categories...

all nighter.

but my main concern is that the only time ill spend in the main room will be for the dnb. and if i have to fork out $80+ (if thats gonna be the case) to go in the main room for a few hours, it would want to be for a HUGE headliner. ie marky, andy c, friction.

other than that

QUOTE (ProfessaB @ Jul 18 2005, 04:36 PM)

well I think the truth can be seen when the biggest events at HEAVEN have been ALL Trance acts/ 4 Strings had em lining upto BP, Tiesto had em lining up to Noarlunga and AVB had em lined upto Moana beach. HELLO, its not fucking brain surgery. And ODDY, of the 150,000 + people that listen to DANCE music in Adelaide (as seen in a comparable survey report conducted late last year), I cant say Ive seen a dance music event with more than 7000 people. So why aren't the other 140,000 plus people attending enchanted ???????????

i havent exactly seen a trance/ house show pull a crowd of 140,000 either?

what are you getting at?

QUOTE (weez @ Jul 18 2005, 05:10 PM)

QUOTE (ProfessaB @ Jul 18 2005, 04:36 PM) well I think the truth can be seen when the biggest events at HEAVEN have been ALL Trance acts/ 4 Strings had em lining upto BP, Tiesto had em lining up to Noarlunga and AVB had em lined upto Moana beach. HELLO, its not fucking brain surgery. And ODDY, of the 150,000 + people that listen to DANCE music in Adelaide (as seen in a comparable survey report conducted late last year), I cant say Ive seen a dance music event with more than 7000 people.  So why aren't the other 140,000 plus people attending enchanted ??????????? i havent exactly seen a trance/ house show pull a crowd of 140,000 either? what are you getting at?

Beacuse Heaven has been the only venue bringing over the BIG names in Trance and House in recent years, and they cant hold 140,000. But they sure can have em lining up till 3am in the morning just to get a peak.

How many HARD nights in Adelaide have been going 12 months or more ????
Or even 6 months ??????

My point is that the HARDER scene is only a small crowd, and not big enough to keep supporting the dance scene alone. We need variety, and therefore not just HARD acts at events like this. Everyone is trying to be UNDERGROUND and there is no cash flow for underground in Adelaide. BIG DJ's cost money, and a small community of punters cant afford to support the entire dance music scene of Adelaide.

This post has been edited by ProfessaB on Jul 18 2005, 05:22 PM

QUOTE (ProfessaB @ Jul 18 2005, 04:36 PM)

well I think the truth can be seen when the biggest events at HEAVEN have been ALL Trance acts/ 4 Strings had em lining upto BP, Tiesto had em lining up to Noarlunga and AVB had em lined upto Moana beach. HELLO, its not fucking brain surgery. And ODDY, of the 150,000 + people that listen to DANCE music in Adelaide (as seen in a comparable survey report conducted late last year), I cant say Ive seen a dance music event with more than 7000 people. So why aren't the other 140,000 plus people attending enchanted ???????????

From what i can remember the last few trance acts have pulled much less than anticpiated numbers.

Armin Van Buuren for one, plenty of space all round.

The price of the big name trance acts would probably outweigh the amount of money from tickets the act would probably sell for a large event.

If Agnelli n Nelson got added to the Godskitchen lineup i think id have to go to melbourne :D

Oh and Vote#1 MrS (nigerian wanking music Set)

QUOTE (cammyxxoo @ Jul 18 2005, 08:20 AM)

Whilst having it at the Ent Centre would be tops - I really don't think it's a plausible option. We've been told before how expensive it is to hire such a place when people have suggested it. So, if MPK IS serious about this - get ready to fork out $100 plus for a ticket I'd think... and then... would we get enough people to fill it anyways? The venues we've had for the first three have been perfect for the number of people that attend. Winter Enchanted isn't as popular as Enchanted Forest and I doubt there would be enough people to make it the party that it could be in the Ent Centre. Nice thought tho but

With the floor and the front rooms only (in other words none of the grandstand type areas, the capacity is about 4000. The question is will more people come along if there is alcohol and it is all night....

QUOTE (weez @ Jul 18 2005, 05:05 PM)

all nighter. but my main concern is that the only time ill spend in the main room will be for the dnb. and if i have to fork out $80+ (if thats gonna be the case) to go in the main room for a few hours, it would want to be for a HUGE headliner. ie marky, andy c, friction. other than that

I can't believe you would put friction in the same category as those two....

His pulling power is about 25% of those two....

QUOTE (EpharGy @ Jul 18 2005, 05:29 PM)

Oh and Vote#1 MrS (nigerian wanking music Set)

what's all that about?

QUOTE (Slide)

if Trance was seriously promoted here, or psy, or fucking nigerian wanking music, after time, and after a few key dj`s here started to spin it, it should take off, if done in the right way..

FFS this thread is getting everyones opinion on the VENUE. Stop putting in personal preferences for line ups... coz at the end of the day, I'm pretty sure Daniel and Chad know what they are doing in that regard!!

Its all well and good for everyone to say they want more of *insert favourite style of music here* played, but what YOU like, isn't necesarily what everyone else is gonna like.

Take me for instance, I would love nothing more than to see a hardcore DJ like Neophyte or DJ Paul or Outblast or Korsakoff as the healiner, but I know its probably not gonna happen at WE. Its just not feasable...

/rant

This post has been edited by ~:Betty:~ on Jul 18 2005, 06:02 PM

QUOTE (ProfessaB @ Jul 18 2005, 05:17 PM)

Beacuse Heaven has been the only venue bringing over the BIG names in Trance and House in recent years, and they cant hold 140,000.  But they sure can have em lining up till 3am in the morning just to get a peak. How many HARD nights in Adelaide have been going 12 months or more ???? Or even 6 months ?????? My point is that the HARDER scene is only a small crowd, and not big enough to keep supporting the dance scene alone.  We need variety, and therefore not just HARD acts at events like this.  Everyone is trying to be UNDERGROUND and there is no cash flow for underground in Adelaide.  BIG DJ's cost money, and a small community of punters cant afford to support the entire dance music scene of Adelaide.

can you honestly say that another 1 or 2 thousand trance or house folk would like to attend an event with 7000 candy ravers and stinky junglists? i think there both completely different scenes mate and we stay away from each other for that reason.


MPK- hehe yeah i know hes not your regular household name to most people. but hes just one of the djs id be willing to part a fair amount of money to see. at a large event, hed blow the roof off.

This post has been edited by weez on Jul 18 2005, 06:04 PM

i've had a few chats about this with some friends that dont go out anymore, but if it was at the entertainment centre and a all-nighter they would be pretty keen

QUOTE (MPK @ Jul 18 2005, 05:39 PM)

QUOTE (weez @ Jul 18 2005, 05:05 PM) all nighter. but my main concern is that the only time ill spend in the main room will be for the dnb. and if i have to fork out $80+ (if thats gonna be the case)  to go in the main room for a few hours, it would want to be for a HUGE headliner. ie marky, andy c, friction. other than that  I can't believe you would put friction in the same category as those two.... His pulling power is about 25% of those two....

maybe true, but i would also rate him almost as highly as marky and andy

QUOTE (VeLoCiTy @ Jul 18 2005, 05:59 PM)

QUOTE (MPK @ Jul 18 2005, 05:39 PM) QUOTE (weez @ Jul 18 2005, 05:05 PM) all nighter. but my main concern is that the only time ill spend in the main room will be for the dnb. and if i have to fork out $80+ (if thats gonna be the case)  to go in the main room for a few hours, it would want to be for a HUGE headliner. ie marky, andy c, friction. other than that  I can't believe you would put friction in the same category as those two.... His pulling power is about 25% of those two.... maybe true, but i would also rate him almost as highly as marky and andy

QUOTE (weez @ Jul 18 2005, 06:06 PM)

QUOTE (VeLoCiTy @ Jul 18 2005, 05:59 PM) QUOTE (MPK @ Jul 18 2005, 05:39 PM) QUOTE (weez @ Jul 18 2005, 05:05 PM) all nighter. but my main concern is that the only time ill spend in the main room will be for the dnb. and if i have to fork out $80+ (if thats gonna be the case)  to go in the main room for a few hours, it would want to be for a HUGE headliner. ie marky, andy c, friction. other than that  I can't believe you would put friction in the same category as those two.... His pulling power is about 25% of those two.... maybe true, but i would also rate him almost as highly as marky and andy

But would you pay $80 to see him play?

QUOTE (MPK @ Jul 18 2005, 06:07 PM)

QUOTE (weez @ Jul 18 2005, 06:06 PM) QUOTE (VeLoCiTy @ Jul 18 2005, 05:59 PM) QUOTE (MPK @ Jul 18 2005, 05:39 PM) QUOTE (weez @ Jul 18 2005, 05:05 PM) all nighter. but my main concern is that the only time ill spend in the main room will be for the dnb. and if i have to fork out $80+ (if thats gonna be the case)  to go in the main room for a few hours, it would want to be for a HUGE headliner. ie marky, andy c, friction. other than that  I can't believe you would put friction in the same category as those two.... His pulling power is about 25% of those two.... maybe true, but i would also rate him almost as highly as marky and andy But would you pay $80 to see him play?

i paid 75 just to see teebee and rider. if you had another name that slightly interested me backing friction then i would definetly pay 80.

QUOTE (VeLoCiTy @ Jul 18 2005, 06:10 PM)

But would you pay $80 to see him play? [/QUOTE] i paid 75 just to see teebee and rider. if you had another name that slightly interested me backing friction then i would definetly pay 80.

not by himself no.


yes if he had MC SP with him.

Each to their own.... however I think Friction is definately a great technical DJ, but I found his set boring as.... Rider was the first DJ to play drum and bass sets, is commonly known as the Don and even tho he didn't play well this time has smashed it in Adelaide more than any other international by double. Teebee's sets IMHO are musically vastly supeior to Friction and technically almost as good (There is more to DJing than trying to crunch two basslines on top of each other). Teebee is also more innovative both as a DJ and by miles as a producer.
So to compare Friction and SP (the sermon king) to Rider and Teebee seems to me like comparing the Crows to the Norwod Redlegs....

Anyway, the point of doing the entertainment centre is more about paying $80 to hear a wicked DJ in an awesome venue..... not a bunch of wicked dj's in a good venue.

This post has been edited by MPK on Jul 18 2005, 06:38 PM

QUOTE (MPK @ Jul 18 2005, 06:35 PM)

Anyway, the point of doing the entertainment centre is more about paying $80 to hear a wicked DJ in an awesome venue..... not a bunch of wicked dj's in a good venue.

hmm, if you get good djs it doesnt matter where it is!

so the second option sounds beter to me.

If you guys are looking for acts for summer enchanted I think proteus would blow up on a big stage... especially considering how he likes to move around it and put on a show..

Far out looks like the poll is definetly leading to one side... well my vote is entertainment centre!!!! Or just all nighter in general
hahah i got so excitd when I had a new PM only to realise it was the Paul Hammon one about winter enchantd. Good work on letting people know and have their say guys

QUOTE (MPK @ Jul 18 2005, 06:35 PM)

Each to their own.... however I think Friction is definately a great technical DJ, but I found his set boring as.... Rider was the first DJ to play drum and bass sets, is commonly known as the Don and even tho he didn't play well this time has smashed it in Adelaide more than any other international by double. Teebee's sets IMHO are musically vastly supeior to Friction and technically almost as good (There is more to DJing than trying to crunch two basslines on top of each other). Teebee is also more innovative both as a DJ and by miles as a producer. So to compare Friction and SP (the sermon king) to Rider and Teebee seems to me like comparing the Crows to the Norwod Redlegs.... Anyway, the point of doing the entertainment centre is more about paying $80 to hear a wicked DJ in an awesome venue..... not a bunch of wicked dj's in a good venue.

dont get me wrong id be more than happy to see teebee again.


besides the obvious of marky and andy, who else would you put in that catagory?

QUOTE (weez @ Jul 18 2005, 06:49 PM)

besides the obvious of marky and andy, who else would you put in that catagory?

I'd say Fierce. But I'm no professional.



*runs away & hides*

QUOTE (weez @ Jul 18 2005, 06:49 PM)

QUOTE (MPK @ Jul 18 2005, 06:35 PM) Each to their own.... however I think Friction is definately a great technical DJ, but I found his set boring as.... Rider was the first DJ to play drum and bass sets, is commonly known as the Don and even tho he didn't play well this time has smashed it in Adelaide more than any other international by double. Teebee's sets IMHO are musically vastly supeior to Friction and technically almost as good (There is more to DJing than trying to crunch two basslines on top of each other). Teebee is also more innovative both as a DJ and by miles as a producer. So to compare Friction and SP (the sermon king) to Rider and Teebee seems to me like comparing the Crows to the Norwod Redlegs.... Anyway, the point of doing the entertainment centre is more about paying $80 to hear a wicked DJ in an awesome venue..... not a bunch of wicked dj's in a good venue. dont get me wrong id be more than happy to see teebee again. besides the obvious of marky and andy, who else would you put in that catagory?

That is hard... nobody really... but there can be combinations of people.

then the next level of people... such as...

Grooverider
Roni
Goldie
Kenny Ken (I know people on here think he is cheese but he pulls a crowd)
Then there are live acts... Like ezy rollers and london electricity

then

Bad company
Doc scott
Shyfx
Skibba
GQ
Pendulum
Fierce
Fresh
Adam F
High Contrast
......

I'm sure there are some I've missed.

QUOTE (MPK @ Jul 18 2005, 07:10 PM)

then Bad company Doc scott Shyfx Skibba GQ Pendulum Fierce Fresh Adam F High Contrast ...... I'm sure there are some I've missed.

Bukem?
Ed Rush?

QUOTE (weez @ Jul 18 2005, 05:53 PM)

can you honestly say that another 1 or 2 thousand trance or house folk would like to attend an event with 7000 candy ravers and stinky junglists? i think there both completely different scenes mate and we stay away from each other for that reason.

'rockers' can put up with 'dancers' (and vise versa) at the BDO (and the difference between rock music and dance music scenes is far greater than the difference between the sub-scenes of dance music that you mentioned), so i fail to see your reason

all ages, all nighter, enterteinment centre, trance/techno/dnb/freeform/UK Hard all in different rooms (is there that many rooms at EC? ) with 2+ big international headliners in each room *should i have posted this in 'Your Fantasy Rave' or will my fantasy come true one day?*

QUOTE (ProfessaB @ Jul 18 2005, 05:17 PM)

Beacuse Heaven has been the only venue bringing over the BIG names in Trance and House in recent years, and they cant hold 140,000. But they sure can have em lining up till 3am in the morning just to get a peak. My point is that the HARDER scene is only a small crowd, and not big enough to keep supporting the dance scene alone. We need variety, and therefore not just HARD acts at events like this. Everyone is trying to be UNDERGROUND and there is no cash flow for underground in Adelaide. BIG DJ's cost money, and a small community of punters cant afford to support the entire dance music scene of Adelaide.

well it's a lot fuckin bigger than you beloved trance/ prog scene !! thats for fuckin sure ...

You tell me the last big name trance act that made money @ heaven and ill tell you how wrong you are .. the ppl speak with there feet and the rave scene is certainly not in dire straits at the moment !! .. perhaps you should b preaching to someone that wants to promote trance and waste money on that style, cos I sure as hell wasted a lot of money promoting hard dance here in Adelaide promoting the style I hold close to my heart .. Trance isn't just gonna pop up and become #1 outta nowhere .. till then take a few deep breaths and enjoy the hard dance that we have !

If the hard scene is so damn small why is it that Enchatend can pull 5000+ annually yet there seems to be a serious lack of trance/ prog events of this size (If ever in Adelaide) .. your in Adelaide mate not melbourne

Unless someone passionate with a lot of $'s decides to start promoting trance very soon you wont be seeing it at any major parties for many yrs, FACT !

why dont you sort it out .. you seem to be rather passionate ..

QUOTE (~:Betty:~ @ Jul 18 2005, 05:51 PM)

I would love nothing more than to see a hardcore DJ like Outblast

you can catch him at REVOLUTION .. comin soon

<End cheap shameless plug>

QUOTE (MPK @ Jul 18 2005, 05:37 PM)

The question is will more people come along if there is alcohol and it is all night....

without a shadow of a doubt

QUOTE (Odyssey @ Jul 18 2005, 07:43 PM)

QUOTE (ProfessaB @ Jul 18 2005, 05:17 PM) Beacuse Heaven has been the only venue bringing over the BIG names in Trance and House in recent years, and they cant hold 140,000.  But they sure can have em lining up till 3am in the morning just to get a peak. My point is that the HARDER scene is only a small crowd, and not big enough to keep supporting the dance scene alone.  We need variety, and therefore not just HARD acts at events like this.  Everyone is trying to be UNDERGROUND and there is no cash flow for underground in Adelaide.  BIG DJ's cost money, and a small community of punters cant afford to support the entire dance music scene of Adelaide. well it's a lot fuckin bigger than you beloved trance/ prog scene !! thats for fuckin sure ... You tell me the last big name trance act that made money @ heaven and ill tell you how wrong you are .. the ppl speak with there feet and the rave scene is certainly not in dire straits at the moment !! .. perhaps you should b preaching to someone that wants to promote trance and waste money on that style, cos I sure as hell wasted a lot of money promoting hard dance here in Adelaide promoting the style I hold close to my heart .. Trance isn't just gonna pop up and become #1 outta nowhere .. till then take a few deep breaths and enjoy the hard dance that we have ! If the hard scene is so damn small why is it that Enchatend can pull 5000+ annually yet there seems to be a serious lack of trance/ prog events of this size (If ever in Adelaide) .. your in Adelaide mate not melbourne Unless someone passionate with a lot of $'s decides to start promoting trance very soon you wont be seeing it at any major parties for many yrs, FACT ! why dont you sort it out .. you seem to be rather passionate ..

If the RAVE scene aint in dire straits, then why is top jock, Alex Calver going home unpaid, and with a fowl taste of Adelaide in his mouth. He thinks Adelaide sucks cock, and I reckon he might know a few guys back in the UK that might think twice about coming to SA.

Passionate I am, along with a shit load of others on this site. I know it aint just gunna pop out of no-where, money and contacts are required to get things happening.

I dont mind dancin to the harder stuff me-self, but WHY cant we see some VARIETY in town. I think it would help in educating the commercial kru, and bring more numbers which = more $$$$ = bigger names and events.

QUOTE (alexb618 @ Jul 18 2005, 07:53 PM)

QUOTE (MPK @ Jul 18 2005, 05:37 PM) The question is will more people come along if there is alcohol and it is all night.... without a shadow of a doubt

seconded

QUOTE (~:Betty:~ @ Jul 19 2005, 12:32 AM)

If i was going to an event with an all star line up in a fucking shearing shed I'd still love it.

You just went to an event in a shearing shed with a monumental line up

QUOTE (Keane @ Jul 17 2005, 04:18 PM)

all nighter at the EC.. that would be massive! hopefully all this support will convert into a crankin party.. fingers crossed hey. hehe lets start a petition!

This is the petition... 300 yes votes means yes.... call your friends....

half way there ... cmon ...

I wish I could vote twice now!! Have always pondered over how well a rave would go at the Entertainment Centre, would love it if someone is willing to give it a go i think it could be quite a success

Can this be stickied somewhere?

Ent centre here we come!

QUOTE (MPK @ Jul 19 2005, 12:55 AM)

QUOTE (PaulHamon @ Jul 16 2005, 12:18 PM) Anyway... 12 year wait for a show at the Entertainment Centre, it's time for another one! Colossus was in 1995....

Quest with CJ Bolland was in 1998. Didnt use the inside bit though.

I think WE at the Entertainment Centre would be awesome! I know that my friends and I would definitely pay a bit extra to go if it was there. At the end of the day whats an extra $20 bucks or so for a good party?

I like that it would be nice and clean too :princess:

Summary of thread - both genre`s are popular - trance just isnt enought on its own tho.

The big name trance acts - i.e AVB, tiesto, Ferry etc, were all at heaven on a Thursday night yeh?
I dont think Jesus could fill a floor successfully on a thursday night these days cos most people have flacid pensiss!!

p.s - someone bring some nigerian wanking music please!

QUOTE (SUPERSHOOTER @ Jul 19 2005, 01:04 AM)

QUOTE (~:Betty:~ @ Jul 19 2005, 12:32 AM) If i was going to an event with an all star line up in a fucking shearing shed I'd still love it. You just went to an event in a shearing shed with a monumental line up

So true...

QUOTE (slide @ Jul 19 2005, 08:28 AM)

Summary of thread - both genre`s are popular - trance just isnt enought on its own tho. The big name trance acts - i.e AVB, tiesto, Ferry etc, were all at heaven on a Thursday night yeh? I dont think Jesus could fill a floor successfully on a thursday night these days cos most people have flacid pensiss!! p.s - someone bring some nigerian wanking music please!

Ferry and AVB did pack Surgery - more than a generic night anyways. Almost looked like a Skankland night. Tiesto played NYE a few years ago - and as I heard - it went off - but NYE always does for Heaven. Now days - Kid Kenobi only just got the top floor filled when people got free entry! I dunno - what's happened to Thursday nights at Heaven..?

I'd be happy to pay the extra.
But will all these other punters that don't always or ever go to these shows pay the extra, that is the question. But I guess you know that.

*I'm gunna have to get some friends around who don't have access to the internet, sign em up and get em to vote*

QUOTE (cammyxxoo @ Jul 19 2005, 08:34 AM)

QUOTE (slide @ Jul 19 2005, 08:28 AM) Summary of thread - both genre`s are popular - trance just isnt enought on its own tho. The big name trance acts - i.e AVB, tiesto, Ferry etc, were all at heaven on a Thursday night yeh? I dont think Jesus could fill a floor successfully on a thursday night these days cos most people have flacid pensiss!! p.s - someone bring some nigerian wanking music please! Ferry and AVB did pack Surgery - more than a generic night anyways. Almost looked like a Skankland night. Tiesto played NYE a few years ago - and as I heard - it went off - but NYE always does for Heaven. Now days - Kid Kenobi only just got the top floor filled when people got free entry! I dunno - what's happened to Thursday nights at Heaven..?

Kid only just got Traffic filled (thats down stairs only and outside closed)
That was around Dec last year. Breaks tour back in sept/oct was alot bigger, I think from memory.

having something like winter enchanted at the ent cent would surely help its credibility in the media stakes - ie anything that can fill that venue is hardly some peripheral 'fringe' activity.
if it helped increase the argument for testing instead of the head in the sand kind of approach we saw after the last WE, that would be an added bonus.

QUOTE (cammyxxoo @ Jul 19 2005, 08:34 AM)

QUOTE (slide @ Jul 19 2005, 08:28 AM) Summary of thread - both genre`s are popular - trance just isnt enought on its own tho. The big name trance acts - i.e AVB, tiesto, Ferry etc, were all at heaven on a Thursday night yeh? I dont think Jesus could fill a floor successfully on a thursday night these days cos most people have flacid pensiss!! p.s - someone bring some nigerian wanking music please! Ferry and AVB did pack Surgery - more than a generic night anyways. Almost looked like a Skankland night. Tiesto played NYE a few years ago - and as I heard - it went off - but NYE always does for Heaven. Now days - Kid Kenobi only just got the top floor filled when people got free entry! I dunno - what's happened to Thursday nights at Heaven..?

tiesto played christmas night - had a wicked time that night and there seemed to be quite a few people there that night

if you are looking at getting people from a different market ie those who aren’t the usual hard dance + d&b, maybe to attract them it may not a bad idea to have a trance name play - capped off at the EC might just be the sweetener that they need to attend.

Winter Enchanted @ Entertainment Centre all the way

personally, i would also pay a few extra $$ to have it there as well

here, here!

A city of 735,000 people puts on a TRANCE event and this is the result.

How sweet does it look inside a real arena.

This post has been edited by ProfessaB on Jul 19 2005, 10:12 AM

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fuck!!!!

unreal!

QUOTE (billy boy @ Jul 19 2005, 10:00 AM)

tiesto played christmas night - had a wicked time that night and there seemed to be quite a few people there that night if you are looking at getting people from a different market ie those who aren’t the usual hard dance + d&b, maybe to attract them it may not a bad idea to have a trance name play - capped off at the EC might just be the sweetener that they need to attend. Winter Enchanted @ Entertainment Centre all the way personally, i would also pay a few extra $$ to have it there as well

Xmas night. That's right.

I think bringing a larger name trance act to headline something like WE is a good idea. The Clubland white t-shirt trance-loving crowd would love it too and give WE a go Get more people exposed to it. Like having a few breaks sets this year - that back tent was packed for John Doe and Cheeky B - just have to expose people to it and they might like it

And pay a few extra dollars. Yes. It would be expected for a night at the Ent Centre. You pay more for entry to Heaven on NYE or even the DnD ball! And imagine the lasers, the decor, the scaffolding... ah... it would be pretty spesh

(I really hope this goes ahead - walking distance from my house )

Maybe a setup along these lines would get the juices flowing

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You'd want to get a decent number of people coming to see the trance acts. I believe Tiesto etc charge an enormous amount of $ to play. Perhaps team up with Heaven or something and get them to help with that side of things.

Bring over DJ Paul, Neophyte, Rotterdam terror corps or Predator and you'll have me frothing at the mouth for years to come.

QUOTE (ProfessaB @ Jul 19 2005, 10:34 AM)

Maybe a setup along these lines would get the juices flowing

That's awesome - but the poor jellyfish that gave their lives to hang from the ceiling...

QUOTE (ProfessaB @ Jul 19 2005, 10:11 AM)

here, here! A city of 735,000 people puts on a TRANCE event and this is the result. How sweet does it look inside a real arena.

Where is that? Somewhere in Europe I presume?

QUOTE (Idicus Ulthwe' @ Jul 19 2005, 11:29 AM)

QUOTE (ProfessaB @ Jul 19 2005, 10:11 AM) here, here! A city of 735,000 people puts on a TRANCE event and this is the result. How sweet does it look inside a real arena. Where is that? Somewhere in Europe I presume?

Amsterdam.

"Sensation" is held twice a year. AND it is now also held over 2 days, with 50,000 people attending in just 2 days.

Sensation Video Trailers

All put together by ID&T, Europes biggest Trance promoter and record label. They also dabble in a little house, and a other styles.

BUT being Europe, people are happy to travel a few hours from neighbouring areas to get involved, hence why the big numbers.

Heres a picture of the venue from the outside.

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QUOTE (Odyssey @ Jul 18 2005, 11:24 PM)

QUOTE (DJ SOLACE @ Jul 18 2005, 10:56 PM) But i understand the business side and agree trance is a tricky and risky proposition in this town.  Maybe if some exposure at some of the bigger shows, and i dont necessarily mean getting big names, as mentioned earlier, they cost way to much for what seems to be a small market, but adding some good local trance djs would certainly add something. what like solarsone at sunrise @ EF7

I thought Solarstone rocked it, pity i was too busy making sure XXXXX wasnt throwing up over herself


Mod Edit:

No need to mention people's names in that context. Especially when its someone everyone knows.

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QUOTE (ProfessaB @ Jul 19 2005, 12:14 PM)

"Sensation" is held twice a year.  AND it is now also held over 2 days, with 50,000 people attending in just 2 days.

Saw the promotions for this event in 2000 - what a fucken awesome set up that included headline Carl Cox.
The home ground of famous dutch soccer team Ajax thats a 15 minute train ride from central Amsterdam Station. Note: its a day & night rave!

Notice how everyone in the photo is wearing white? They attempt to get the whole crowd in white or another colour (depending on which of the 2 days you attend) and the effect is awesome with 50,000 punters!

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This post has been edited by Gander on Jul 19 2005, 12:37 PM

while we are on the of inproving Enchanteds

Whats the possibility of summer enchanted becoming a multi day party like they do interstate

i dont know what extra stuff is involved in organising it
or how the rest of adelaide would respond to it
would be Bloody awsome but IMO

QUOTE (EpharGy @ Jul 19 2005, 12:24 PM)

QUOTE (Odyssey @ Jul 18 2005, 11:24 PM) QUOTE (DJ SOLACE @ Jul 18 2005, 10:56 PM) But i understand the business side and agree trance is a tricky and risky proposition in this town.  Maybe if some exposure at some of the bigger shows, and i dont necessarily mean getting big names, as mentioned earlier, they cost way to much for what seems to be a small market, but adding some good local trance djs would certainly add something. what like solarsone at sunrise @ EF7 I thought Solarstone rocked it, pity i was too busy making sure Brenda wasnt throwing up over herself

Agreed, Solarstone did put on an amazing show, and would happily pay $100 alone to see em rock it out again.

QUOTE (ProfessaB @ Jul 19 2005, 12:14 PM)

QUOTE (Idicus Ulthwe' @ Jul 19 2005, 11:29 AM) QUOTE (ProfessaB @ Jul 19 2005, 10:11 AM) here, here! A city of 735,000 people puts on a TRANCE event and this is the result. How sweet does it look inside a real arena. Where is that? Somewhere in Europe I presume? Amsterdam. "Sensation" is held twice a year. AND it is now also held over 2 days, with 50,000 people attending in just 2 days. Sensation Video Trailers All put together by ID&T, Europes biggest Trance promoter and record label. They also dabble in a little house, and a other styles. BUT being Europe, people are happy to travel a few hours from neighbouring areas to get involved, hence why the big numbers. Heres a picture of the venue from the outside.

Id actually say its only held once a year, 2 editions black and white, which cater to differing styles, but set 1 week apart, they use the same setup and theme, just a little changing of the colours of the decor. Its been that way since after the first one i think.

Also each version caters for 40000.
Both sold out.

I wouldnt quite say they just dabble, they do put on the Thunderdome events.

Id like to see a themed rave in Adelaide

This post has been edited by EpharGy on Jul 19 2005, 12:42 PM

I'd like to see 300 votes

Its also held in Belgium - Antwerpen started April 05 (15,000 people)
PLUS Netherlands - Amsterdam July 05

thats twice.

theme tunes for the events this year are:

Belgium: First and Andre - Widescreen
Amsterdam: AVB - Serenity (Signum RMX)

This post has been edited by ProfessaB on Jul 19 2005, 12:58 PM

QUOTE (PaulHamon @ Jul 19 2005, 12:46 PM)

I'd like to see 300 votes

Just a little over half way come on people!



This post has been edited by Idicus Ulthwe' on Jul 19 2005, 01:14 PM

QUOTE (ProfessaB @ Jul 19 2005, 12:14 PM)

QUOTE (Idicus Ulthwe' @ Jul 19 2005, 11:29 AM) QUOTE (ProfessaB @ Jul 19 2005, 10:11 AM) here, here! A city of 735,000 people puts on a TRANCE event and this is the result. How sweet does it look inside a real arena. Where is that? Somewhere in Europe I presume? Amsterdam. "Sensation" is held twice a year. AND it is now also held over 2 days, with 50,000 people attending in just 2 days. Sensation Video Trailers All put together by ID&T, Europes biggest Trance promoter and record label. They also dabble in a little house, and a other styles. BUT being Europe, people are happy to travel a few hours from neighbouring areas to get involved, hence why the big numbers. Heres a picture of the venue from the outside.

That is the Ajax soccer stadium. ID + T have done parties will hardcore, trance house and so on for up to 100 000 people in a quarry so the guy from BSE was telling me

We have over 2,000 members on this site, so why is it that this poll can barely attract 200 (total) votes.

That's only a participation rate of about 10%, and probably our highest to date.

I reckon the operators should send an email out to everyone to get them voting....

An all nighter sounds great!!
At least that way you can stay in the one place all night rather than venturing out into the cold (being winter and all) and also dont have to worry about transport.
Entertainment Centre is also a good venue not only for space but because of the location. Pretty much equal for southerners and Northerners rather than the usual Northen locations

QUOTE (jjcoolaus @ Jul 19 2005, 01:20 PM)

We have over 2,000 members on this site, so why is it that this poll can barely attract 200 (total) votes. That's only a participation rate of about 10%, and probably our highest to date.

It's all the anonomous people not voting It's the same with everything tho - the number of people who look at the thread, compared with the number of people who post is around 1/10.

Could always add 4 Strings & Ian Van Dahl to the line up that should guarantee the extra heads thru the door. Also some house DJ's like Morillo and Armand might appeal to a different crowd - not sure what dollars they would cost tho'

QUOTE (cammyxxoo @ Jul 19 2005, 01:46 PM)

QUOTE (jjcoolaus @ Jul 19 2005, 01:20 PM) We have over 2,000 members on this site, so why is it that this poll can barely attract 200 (total) votes. That's only a participation rate of about 10%, and probably our highest to date. It's all the anonomous people not voting It's the same with everything tho - the number of people who look at the thread, compared with the number of people who post is around 1/10.

also tho how many members are actually active? i mean i have 3 accounts i think and i know quite a few friends who have accounts but rarely if ever use them, and if they do its even rarer for them to use the forums

:now that i actually read cammy's post.. ive just rehashed it. damn trigger happy posting

This post has been edited by benj2.0 on Jul 19 2005, 02:04 PM

QUOTE (benj2.0 @ Jul 19 2005, 02:02 PM)

QUOTE (cammyxxoo @ Jul 19 2005, 01:46 PM) QUOTE (jjcoolaus @ Jul 19 2005, 01:20 PM) We have over 2,000 members on this site, so why is it that this poll can barely attract 200 (total) votes. That's only a participation rate of about 10%, and probably our highest to date. It's all the anonomous people not voting It's the same with everything tho - the number of people who look at the thread, compared with the number of people who post is around 1/10. also tho how many members are actually active? i mean i have 3 accounts i think and i know quite a few friends who have accounts but rarely if ever use them, and if they do its even rarer for them to use the forums

True - heaps of people I know signed up just for free entry to that launch party at Traffic 2 or so years back with cheap beers for 2 - 3 hours... never been back again

How many people do you think don't want an opinion, or would like to obstain from this survey anyways? Like I don't think it'd matter to EVERYONE

patience... the poll has only been running for 4 days...

spread the word



This post has been edited by Khem on Jul 19 2005, 02:07 PM

the entertainment centre would be a good venue, but if it's held there every year, i reckon it would take a bit of the suspense out of the wait coz u already know where it is and what the venue is like.

but not having to travel between venue and afterparty is definitely worthy of the extra $15 for the all nighter.

go the entertainment centre as long as they change the theme or appearance each year.

This post has been edited by march E on Jul 19 2005, 03:22 PM

QUOTE (cammyxxoo @ Jul 19 2005, 01:46 PM)

It's all the anonomous people not voting

oi, I voted!

QUOTE (MPK @ Jul 19 2005, 01:21 PM)

I reckon the operators should send an email out to everyone to get them voting....

I think I heard that was on the cards

There is a link to it the anthems mailout that went yesterday...

This post has been edited by PaulHamon on Jul 19 2005, 02:56 PM

sketchy ravers in daylight hours? no thanks..

*big grin* looks like the right ppl are voting hehehe

Theres One Dj i aint Seen in a long long time since the Radious Dayz and i Want to See Him Again The DJ is Sven Vath Bring Him Back Pack The ETC and We will Have A Good Time. CJ Bolland at the Entertainment Centre Was Good Remember Guys

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QUOTE (t23 @ Jul 19 2005, 03:07 PM)

sketchy ravers in daylight hours? no thanks..

In the day time we can all dress up and wear masks or helmets

i would prefer topless female dj room:) lisa lashes ting plus the locals

This post has been edited by iLOVEmyMUM on Jul 19 2005, 07:22 PM

all WEs have been great but yeah bring back the ent cent!!

QUOTE (iLOVEmyMUM @ Jul 19 2005, 07:20 PM)

i would prefer topless female dj room:) lisa lashes ting plus the locals

sounds good!

QUOTE (march E @ Jul 19 2005, 02:13 PM)

the entertainment centre would be a good venue, but if it's held there every year, i reckon it would take a bit of the suspense out of the wait coz u already know where it is and what the venue is like.

Seriously though.

Its not like there are dozens venues for the WE guys to choose from, at the end of the day its going to be in one of 4 or 5 spots

I think the 'secret' location part of a city venue is pretty irrelevant anyway.

EC baby!

EC would be the shizzle, i say that not even considering the fact that i can practically walk there from my place

A all nighter anywhere would be the go but Yeah The Ent cent is a handy spot for the masses umm would definatly pull a crowd and plenty of parking

*bump*
Only 122 votes needed guys!

QUOTE (Mmmarissa @ Jul 19 2005, 11:21 PM)

*bump* Only 122 votes needed guys!

120 now

common peps email your buddies

get them voting

Even if they dont know what Enchanted is just give them instructions

come on people with fake accounts, relog in and vote!

QUOTE (LovelyDrift @ Jul 19 2005, 10:30 PM)

EC would be the shizzle, i say that not even considering the fact that i can practically walk there from my place

Before or after the party LD?

Both!!

No re-registering under different names.... that is cheating...

QUOTE (t23 @ Jul 19 2005, 03:07 PM)

sketchy ravers in daylight hours? no thanks..

haha!

little girl asks their mum "why does that man in funny clothes look so scared?"

anyhow. VOTE! people

QUOTE (LovelyDrift @ Jul 19 2005, 10:00 PM)

EC would be the shizzle, i say that not even considering the fact that i can practically walk there from my place

Back to Paul's place for the recovery then! Sounds like a plan

Oooh... the votes are getting up.

Bring on the jellyfish!

QUOTE (Bright & Fluffy @ Jul 19 2005, 12:31 PM)

Whats the possibility of summer enchanted becoming a multi day party like they do interstate

Do we have the numbers to sustain that..? I've never been to an all weekend rave or something like The Falls or anything like that... how many people go to those..?

BTW - Sensation looks awesome Just never be able to get something like that big happening here tho - so much easier in Europe where people from all over Europe just train it over to Amsterdam to attend

people would come and go tho depending on who's playing when.... maybe not quite enough for a few day event but one spread over 2 might work ok???

QUOTE (cammyxxoo @ Jul 20 2005, 04:33 PM)

BTW - Sensation looks awesome Just never be able to get something like that big happening here tho - so much easier in Europe where people from all over Europe just train it over to Amsterdam to attend

its pretty hard to compare adelaide to amsterdam.

imagine some of the train rides home the next day eww.....

I dont think I'd ever go home if I lived in Amsterdam!

Either that or I'd live in a cafe!

just so some people know - part of the reason they can afford so many acts for winter enchanted is some of the acts that play early in the day fly out and play different cities at night, and this reduces the cost of the act

so keep in mind you might not have as many acts as an allnighter

....however... more people might come as a licensed allnighter and this might make up for the higher prices required for the acts

just my cent and a halfs worth!

QUOTE (LovelyDrift @ Jul 20 2005, 05:00 PM)

I dont think I'd ever go home if I lived in Amsterdam! Either that or I'd live in a cafe!

its not like you'd ever have to sleep anyway

what ever happened to vision warehouse

Go the entertainment center, we need somewhere different bigger and better!!

QUOTE (iLOVEmyMUM @ Jul 20 2005, 05:53 PM)

what ever happened to vision warehouse

It burned down, thats why the 1st UW wasnt held there

QUOTE (LovelyDrift @ Jul 20 2005, 06:00 PM)

QUOTE (iLOVEmyMUM @ Jul 20 2005, 05:53 PM) what ever happened to vision warehouse It burned down, thats why the 1st UW wasnt held there

it's a storage place now

QUOTE (LovelyDrift @ Jul 20 2005, 07:00 PM)

QUOTE (iLOVEmyMUM @ Jul 20 2005, 05:53 PM) what ever happened to vision warehouse It burned down, thats why the 1st UW wasnt held there

I never burned down.

All of the events there had noise problems, something that was bad enuff back then but something you simply couldnt get away with today. But as Oddy said, its now a storage place and unusable for parties.

Best warehouse this city has ever seen mind you!

QUOTE (Noddy @ Jul 20 2005, 06:13 PM)

QUOTE (LovelyDrift @ Jul 20 2005, 07:00 PM) QUOTE (iLOVEmyMUM @ Jul 20 2005, 05:53 PM) what ever happened to vision warehouse It burned down, thats why the 1st UW wasnt held there I never burned down. All of the events there had noise problems, something that was bad enuff back then but something you simply couldnt get away with today. But as Oddy said, its now a storage place and unusable for parties. Best warehouse this city has ever seen mind you!

I stand corrected, for some stoopid reason I got Visions mixed up with the Pt Adelaide warehouse *i am stupid*

Plus Ultraworld 1 was back in like 1995 whilst the Pt Adelaide warehouse burned down last year.

Have you slept since Enchanted mate?

QUOTE (Noddy @ Jul 20 2005, 06:17 PM)

Plus Ultraworld 1 was back in like 1995 whilst the Pt Adelaide warehouse burned down last year. Have you slept since Enchanted mate?

I'll say I havent to try and regain at least some credibility!

Does any 1 kno if there is goin 2 b a Summer Enchanted this year???? Could you post a reply 2 my email addy if possible.

QUOTE (corcor_2000 @ Jul 20 2005, 06:29 PM)

Does any 1 kno if there is goin 2 b a Summer Enchanted this year???? Could you post a reply 2 my email addy if possible.

The search function as well as the upcoming events threads are your best friends

QUOTE (LovelyDrift @ Jul 20 2005, 06:31 PM)

QUOTE (corcor_2000 @ Jul 20 2005, 06:29 PM) Does any 1 kno if there is goin 2 b a Summer Enchanted this year???? Could you post a reply 2 my email addy if possible. The search function as well as the upcoming events threads are your best friends

Tah dude....

I'd enjoy a Entertainment Centre Rave as ive neva been there as ive only been 2 the last 3 Enchanteds but 4 the people that hav been there b4 it would b like goin 2 Heaven every weekend, gets 2 repetative & boring, new places that no 1 has eva been 2 b4 are the way 2 go coz you dont kno what 2 expect.

Do you honestly think that going to a venue once every year or 2 will ever get as boring as a club thats open 3 nights a week?

Id rather have it outdoors & overnight at the same place than another day rave...summer enchanted that is


AEC would b a mad venue...all the others i missed and im sure as gona make up 4 it at WE if they have it there!!!

that's some funny shit

Yes i do think it would get boring coz you would remember how the set out of the building is which makes it less entertaining.

Every enchanted ive been to @ pt. Gawler (all 3 of them) have all been set up differently and each time i could have sworn i was in a totally different place!!!

Big upd 2 the enchanted guys 4 doing such a mad job over and over with the same place!!

why cant we have enchanted on wednesday night after my 8:30 session of bingo

QUOTE (corcor_2000 @ Jul 20 2005, 06:39 PM)

new places that no 1 has eva been 2 b4 are the way 2 go coz you dont kno what 2 expect.

Or...

Going to an awesome venue expecting it to be insane like the previous years, and never being disappointed?

There's a reason why I goto Melbourne TT each year at the same venue....

As long as im off my tit's & every 1 else around me is then it's goin 2 b a kick arse night just like Winter Enchanted was...

Yeah wicked

QUOTE (corcor_2000 @ Jul 20 2005, 10:45 PM)

As long as im off my tit's & every 1 else around me is then it's goin 2 b a kick arse night just like Winter Enchanted was...

So then it doesnt matter if its at the same venue every year for you then?

Probably doesnt matter what music is played either?

Probably no need to even go ever again, so long as you and the people in your lounge room are all their tits hey?

I like caramel.

I admit it would still b enjoyable if it was @ the same venue, but there would b that lil bit of dissapointment knowing it's going 2 b at the same place. I cant speak 4 every 1 but i enjoy places that dont have familiar sarroundings as it add's 2 the high not realising where the fuk i am.

If you take enuff and are really off your tits you probably wouldnt know where you are anyway. Or rmember any of it so it would be a surprise the next year no matter what!

some people....

**cough**

sorry for my late comment Oddy, not on the net every minute like others. I was actually talking about last Enchanted. But yeah E7 with Solarstone was excellent.

QUOTE (SiGO @ Jul 20 2005, 10:22 PM)

I like caramel.

QUOTE (corcor_2000 @ Jul 20 2005, 09:45 PM)

As long as im off my tit's & every 1 else around me is then it's goin 2 b a kick arse night just like Winter Enchanted was...

maybe you should take a few of these...





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QUOTE (corcor_2000 @ Jul 20 2005, 10:49 PM)

I admit it would still b enjoyable if it was @ the same venue, but there would b that lil bit of dissapointment knowing it's going 2 b at the same place. I cant speak 4 every 1 but i enjoy places that dont have familiar sarroundings as it add's 2 the high not realising where the fuk i am.

tryed these ?


they get ya off ya tits

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Nice, good to see intelligent people posting these pics on this thread given current media attention.....

Can a mod sort this out please?

I think it should be held at the Festival Centre, we could have a Opera in one room, hard core in another and a bloody good rendition of one of Gilbert & Sullivan's musicals being interspersed with some techno and drum and bass!

... and you would get much classier toilets