SAE - Electronic Music Production Courses -

*ELECTRONIC MUSIC PRODUCTION*

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The Electronic Music Production course is intended for musicians and DJs who enjoy experimenting as well as people with a distinct interest in electronic music:
• You are into DJing and enjoy electronic music
• You would like to create your own music
• You make music and experiment with electronic sound synthesis
• You would like to work more efficiently with your equipment
• You wish to produce remixes or improve your current remixing skills
• You want an edge on your existing production techniques

Audio Engineering Fundamentals
Students learn sound theory, equalisation, studio effects and dynamic processors,
analogue and digital mixing consoles. Students will examine and have access to
various professional and project studio set-ups and gain an understanding of
specific project requirements.

Music Production
Composition structure and arrangement techniques are taught in this section of the
course. Mastering techniques for several media e.g. CD, vinyl and internet are also covered.

Audio Recording and Editing
Through a program of consecutive practical exercises, students learn how to operate industry standard editing systems. Students gain skills in editing sound files effectively, as well as the creative application of editing techniques for vocal and instrument recording.

MIDI and Sequencing
Utilising industry standard sequencing software, students are trained in MIDI recording, sequencing and virtual studio environments. Integration of audio and MIDI for remixing is discussed and solutions are demonstrated. Students are encouraged to experiment with new ideas to achieve unique compositions.

Sampling and Synthesis
Samplers, synthesizers and virtual studio software are explained and various sound shaping techniques are explored. Sampling and beat programming are combined technically and creatively. Students are introduced to basic sound design.

Course commences - Tuesday 16 August 2005
Duration - 6 Months (part time) with 2 lessons per week Tues and Thurs 2pm OR 6pm with practical time on an individual basis for assignments.

For more information contact SAE College
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Level 2
282 Gouger Street
ADELAIDE SA 5000
Ph: [phone removed]
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This post has been edited by lunabass: Jul 6 2005, 10:11 PM

Heard about this from my music tech teacher at school.. speaks highly of SAE but there isn't much of an industry in South Australia, i was thinking about taking a sound engineer course but im not prepared to move just yet.

i think in the music production side of things, they are actually slightly dissapointing, or actually more to the point, the main teacher is somewhat dissapointing....but as far as engineering goes they are top notch, and a very valuable asset

tad expensie

How much is the course?

when i looked into it, it was about 13-14k a year. if i remember correctly.

Yeah the cost is fucking steep as. TAFE runs a less comprehensive course that only looks at the digital realm of things. No analouge and Ive heard its no where as good.

QUOTE (Noddy @ Jul 5 2005, 09:02 PM)

How much is the course?

i have a friend who payed a little over 9k for his engineering course, dont know production, but it shouldnt technically be anymore....plus you can pay it over 5 years i believe

I actually did the audio engineering course, when I was like 17.. and i quit with 3 months left to go.

majorly boring, not what i wanted to do and the cost was about 8-9k.

I remember some bloke at derringers, telling me i could of learnt everything in that course from a $40 book! I guess your really paying for the studio time.. then again you could invest $9000 in a fairly decent set up and teach yourself.


Ive got no idea about the production course, but I do know, theyre is some awesome one's overseas

This post has been edited by Lucas: Jul 5 2005, 09:41 PM

QUOTE (Azrael @ Jul 5 2005, 09:30 PM)

QUOTE (Noddy @ Jul 5 2005, 09:02 PM) How much is the course? i have a friend who payed a little over 9k for his engineering course, dont know production, but it shouldnt technically be anymore....plus you can pay it over 5 years i believe

Nah payment has to be made by the time you finish the course. Thats the way it was when I looked into doing it, $2500-$3000 every three months or like $800-$900 a month.

You can buy a pretty fucking decent studio for that cost.

Much better investment imo.

QUOTE (Noddy @ Jul 5 2005, 09:53 PM)

You can buy a pretty fucking decent studio for that cost. Much better investment imo.

you can get a serious studio to start with for that ..

and a bit o time spent on it and you'll be sorted !!

i paid closer to 10K to study at SAE and now i work as a trained monkey .....SAE is cool but dont expect a job in adelaide

QUOTE (Noddy @ Jul 5 2005, 09:53 PM)

You can buy a pretty fucking decent studio for that cost. Much better investment imo.

depends on what you want to do.....production wise, yeah there is no purpose, you can teach yourself to make good tunes for much less than 9k....if you want to be a professional engineer i consider it to be fucking cheap...the engineering course is fucking comprehensive, and many things they teach are not things you can teach yourself unless you know exactly what shit to be reading, or already know a ridiculous amount about the science of sound

my friend is currently top of his class and considers it to be invaluable to him....but we are planning to start a studio together, so he is quite passionate

SAE is ridiculously expensive.

You're better off trying to get in to the Technical Production (Audio Engineering) course at Salisbury tafe.

They run cert. IV & Diploma (equivalent to SAE cert. and diploma)

I got my cert. IV last year. Cost is capped at 1k for the whole year. Main lecturer lectures at SAE too. Only problem is that they only allow about 15 people in so you'll have to compete with about 150 other people with a skills test, exam etc.

S'pose this is a tad diofferent concentrating solely on production tho'.

I currenttly study at SAE doing the Diploma, the course isnt 13k or what eva its a bit under 10k, you must pay monthly though. You can choose 1 year full time (fuk that!) or part time over 2 years which is what im doing. i was thinkin of TAFE but i wanted 2 work cos we all want money to spend on wkends etc. So Night Classes are good. They expect bout 395 a month, and no you cant pay it off over 5 years.

QUOTE (Azrael @ Jul 5 2005, 11:17 PM)

QUOTE (Noddy @ Jul 5 2005, 09:53 PM) You can buy a pretty fucking decent studio for that cost. Much better investment imo. depends on what you want to do.....production wise, yeah there is no purpose, you can teach yourself to make good tunes for much less than 9k....if you want to be a professional engineer i consider it to be fucking cheap...the engineering course is fucking comprehensive, and many things they teach are not things you can teach yourself unless you know exactly what shit to be reading, or already know a ridiculous amount about the science of sound

And of course there is just so much work around for professional sound engineers.

EMP course kicks in at $2875 for the six months.
$500 rego fee due before commencement.

Was seriously considering it, BUT ive had a good think and may be using the money to buy hard and software and see how things go.

Was going to do this but not for a while as I can use the money for much more needed things, such as a decent set up etc.

set up?

QUOTE (DRAMATIC @ Jul 6 2005, 05:42 PM)

set up?

Yeah hes trying to frame someone for a murder he is committing

ha ha ha, dont you have dex? all u need these days is a laptop and turntables.

QUOTE (DRAMATIC @ Jul 6 2005, 05:47 PM)

ha ha ha, dont you have dex? all u need these days is a laptop and turntables.

you need more than that to produce music dude.

QUOTE (hex @ Jul 6 2005, 06:39 PM)

QUOTE (DRAMATIC @ Jul 6 2005, 05:47 PM) ha ha ha, dont you have dex? all u need these days is a laptop and turntables. you need more than that to produce music dude.

Thats right. Software for the lappy and your away.

QUOTE (Noddy @ Jul 6 2005, 05:09 PM)

QUOTE (Azrael @ Jul 5 2005, 11:17 PM) QUOTE (Noddy @ Jul 5 2005, 09:53 PM) You can buy a pretty fucking decent studio for that cost. Much better investment imo. depends on what you want to do.....production wise, yeah there is no purpose, you can teach yourself to make good tunes for much less than 9k....if you want to be a professional engineer i consider it to be fucking cheap...the engineering course is fucking comprehensive, and many things they teach are not things you can teach yourself unless you know exactly what shit to be reading, or already know a ridiculous amount about the science of sound And of course there is just so much work around for professional sound engineers.

anyone getting into it because it is an easy industry is a fucking idiot....but anyone who is extremely passionate about it, that is not getting into it because it is a somewhat difficult industry is using questionable logic aswell...i personally am planning on moving elsewhere before starting a studio anyways

QUOTE (Lucas @ Jul 5 2005, 09:40 PM)

I remember some bloke at derringers, telling me i could of learnt everything in that course from a $40 book!

and what book might that be?

Audio Engineering for dummies.

This post has been edited by Bongo: Jul 6 2005, 07:52 PM

The Electronic Music Producer Course is $2870 (6 months x $395 per month + $500 registration fee)

The Part Time (2yr) Diploma is $9980 (24 months x $395 per month + $500 registration fee)
The Full Time (1yr) Diploma is $9980 (12 months x $790 per month + $500 registration fee)

The EMP course covers subjects such as Sound theory and Accoustics, EQ, studio hardware and software FX, recording techniques, Digital audio, Synthesis etc.

The largest component of the course is actually learning how to use and manipulate the specific software. Pro Tools, Reason, Ableton Live, Native Instruments Battery and Vokator are covered in detail.

There are some practical lessons on recording drums and vocals in our studios but these subjects are covered in much greater detail in the Diploma (Audio Engineering) courses.

The Diploma courses are quite extensive and cover all things audio in various fields (engineering, production, multimedia, radio, broadcasting, live sound, theatre, film etc) It also covers many other subjects including electronics and business to contracts and accounting.

This post has been edited by lunabass: Jul 6 2005, 10:14 PM

Wow, if i wasnt disadvantaged in the hearing department id be keen. I'm still playing around with Reason, its fairly steep... i think... i need to spend more time on it.

QUOTE (Naked @ Jul 6 2005, 10:23 PM)

Wow, if i wasnt disadvantaged in the hearing department id be keen. I'm still playing around with Reason, its fairly steep... i think... i need to spend more time on it.

Classic Robbie.

My advice...... go out and buy all the manuals for all the equipment their and start reading, thats basically what 95% of the coarse is.

o.k guys heres some ADVICE!

i,m with you on this 1 chad..
this mob used to and still does a course for mixing bands etcetcetc...about 8 to 10 years ago a friend and i were goin to do it hes wasnt working and did it payed roughly $4000 fo it.
with hopefully the prospect of a job at the end of it(this never happened) he statred mixing bands around adelaide local pubs clubs etcetc i went with him and basically ended up doin the same but didint do the course..ofcourse he had a better knowledge of the more technical points but in general it was worth the 4k he spent.
as i side note he now works in a factory and doesnt use his mixing skills FUCKALL.

my2/c

Surely some of those skills could be used to operate factory equipment Jimbo?

i studied out at Salisbury Tafe about 7-8 years ago, spent 3 years out there, did audio production, audio engineering, diploma in music (performing etc) and a year full time in music business (management, bookings, marketing, accounting, networking etc etc).
i got an absolute shit load from it - all up, cost maybe 4k for 3 years study, and walked out of it with work and managed to get my band at the time signed for distribution thru shock records and a grant from a private backer - ended up selling over 4500 cd`s which is considered pretty successful for a local band.

fully reccomend it! - they also have more indepth music prod. courses also

i,m not knocking the course hes a great sound tech just dont think it was worth the money..i learnt by guys saying mix this while the went down the road to see other bands and left me there to fend by myself.