Ninjas Vs Samurais

QUOTE (t23 @ Jun 17 2005, 12:31 PM)

melly, have you read musashi? by eiji yoshikawa? good stuff, if a bit long,  fictional account of miyamoto musashi [of course! ]..

ooooohhh sounds good, will add that to the list.

anna: i know there is another one by the same author - autumn something.. but didnt know there was a series. hrmmmm will have to go look. the main character in cloud of sparrows was called lord genji...



This post has been edited by melly on Jun 17 2005, 12:41 PM

oh ok, maybe i am getting it mixed up wit the other guy writing lotsa japanese samurai novels.. i think he is a westerner... my mistake!

here's a run down bout Tale of Genji.. its a cool read! oh, but its set like, 600 years before any of the samurai stuff, my mistake! still makes for great reading, considering the novel itself is now over a 1000 years old!! it was written by Lady Murasaki Shikubu.. and according to the website, was the FIRST novel written in ancient japan! woo yeah.
http://www.iz2.or.jp/english/what/

the other book i was describing is called The Pillow Book of Sei Shonagon.. i really do recommend it

This post has been edited by trashy_chica on Jun 17 2005, 12:55 PM

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/038...5707628-0499232

cloud of sparrows info

QUOTE (melly @ Jun 17 2005, 12:19 PM)

which is about samurais. samurais are cool, cooler than ninjas

its all about the stealth and smoke bombs!!

no way

the ability to carelessly slice someone in half and make it look impressive is a beautiful thing

QUOTE (melly @ Jun 18 2005, 02:47 PM)

no way the ability to carelessly slice someone in half and make it look impressive is a beautiful thing

the ability to do the above with no emotion whatsover is even more impressive

currently reading: Fighting Scared - Robin Horsfall. An autobio about a British SAS dude

see, drifty understands.


pffrt. ninjas indeed!

wats wrong wit ninjas? they're so sneaky! noone even knows if they really existed or not, there are theories that 'ninjas' were easy explanations for deaths of nobles in feuding houses ... true!

as for me, give me a kung fu warrior anyday! kungfu kicks ass! wooo see my flying staff form! *makes wushu movements*

anyways...
err i am reading the ERMAPPER tutorial manual.. in a cold lil comp lab.. not near my office

they're cool, but can't be compared in terms of coolness of samurais.




i'll stop being off topic now.

me too
(i still think kung fu warriors are the coolest... have we reached a moot point?! )

i have a stack of new scientist n catalyst ONLINE to read

QUOTE (trashy_chica @ Jun 18 2005, 03:28 PM)

me too (i still think kung fu warriors are the coolest... have we reached a moot point?! ) i have a stack of new scientist n catalyst ONLINE to read

new scientist = fucking cool website.

it's a great intelligent people's boredom killer. the space section rocks.

raver1, you've already posted that once on this page. you've proven that you have barely enough intelligence to do more than read RA, which doesn't suprise me at all.

QUOTE (nos235 @ Jun 18 2005, 03:54 PM)

QUOTE (trashy_chica @ Jun 18 2005, 03:10 PM) wats wrong wit ninjas? they're so sneaky! noone even knows if they really existed or not, there are theories that 'ninjas' were easy explanations for deaths of nobles in feuding houses ... true! The Samurai had a code of ethics not dissimilar to Western Chivalry. So the Ninja was an afront to the rules of conflict. They killed in cold-blood - thus they were no better than assassins - and can't be called warriors as such.

meh. assasins are cool.

QUOTE (nos235 @ Jun 18 2005, 04:54 PM)

QUOTE (trashy_chica @ Jun 18 2005, 03:10 PM) wats wrong wit ninjas? they're so sneaky! noone even knows if they really existed or not, there are theories that 'ninjas' were easy explanations for deaths of nobles in feuding houses ... true! The Samurai had a code of ethics not dissimilar to Western Chivalry. So the Ninja was an afront to the rules of conflict. They killed in cold-blood - thus they were no better than assassins - and can't be called warriors as such.

i wouldnt agree wit that at all.. anyways, as i see it, 'western chivalry' was a mega farce and the only people who profited were the noblemen who looted and killed in cold blood... one example? the crusades! where's the chivalry in that?!

anyways, this aint on topic... i dont wanna get into trouble! heheh.. oh wait i am a mod..

QUOTE (trashy_chica @ Jun 18 2005, 04:00 PM)

anyways, this aint on topic... i dont wanna get into trouble! heheh.. oh wait i am a mod..

Which means you should be setting an example

and i am!

They were perhaps only seen as assasins as them, ninja's went against the Samurai elite perhaps'. Certain perhaps that the ninja were in fact the poor so to speak".. Although there entire life was sent forth in peace and simplicity, they engaged in bruitful attacks on the samurai as these went against the Ninja's style of living, that of simplicity and harmony one with nature and others". They truly were humble unlike the barbaric samurai, or it was the other way around.


Perhaps they are seen as warriors given they strived towards bringing about a better life, though there are numerous other ways perhaps to reach this, but for that time, killing was still a form of the primitive mind in our species, therefore rationalizing was little to be desired for then, though still at this time also'.

" A book called, the art of a Ninja, by Stephen K Haynes whom was trained under a Grand Master Dr Hatsumi in Japan, stated this"

#As Lucifer is an Angel from heaven he To can giv you just as many Good gifts as God can". This was the Ninja's doctrine, also as a westerner would look at a mountain and suggest that this is the east side Etc. Them the Ninja would see it as whole, complete".

# this must not be taken in a literal sense, for it means that to become free we must accept all evil to understand the good, either through perhaps experience or witness". As this complements the Yin n Yang concept of duality in eastern culture.

The Ninja's rocked", Ninjitsu is Gold, done it for a while".

This post has been edited by Energy3 on Jun 18 2005, 06:13 PM

QUOTE (Energy3 @ Jun 18 2005, 06:12 PM)

" A book called, the art of a Ninja, by Stephen K Haynes whom was trained under a Grand Master Dr Hatsumi in Japan, stated this"

While we're off the topic, who hasnt trained under Grandmaster Hatsumi's system of Bujinkan Taijutsu? Sorry if i offend anyone with this comment, but anyone who studys at a "McDojo", training in "McMartialArts" such as Bujinkan cannot be taken seriously by people who study genuine koryu imho just as someone who thinks McDonald's is fine food cannot be considered a culinary connosiuer by those who are serious about food

This post has been edited by LovelyDrift on Jun 18 2005, 06:55 PM

apologies for the messy split -

talk ninjas and samurais all you like!!

there is no apostrophe in the plural of samurai

QUOTE (alexb618 @ Jun 18 2005, 07:04 PM)

there is no apostrophe in the plural of samurai

No no no Alex.... if a word end's with an 's' it must have an apostrophe...
it appear's that you have to re sit "Introduction to Intarnet Grammar"

haha awesome thread! sorry i havent been a very good mod of late *slaps wrist* i am still getting used to my abilities!

you guy's have no idea

samurai's own ninja's

Bingo Sigo... and Daimyo owns Samurai...

QUOTE (wojtek @ Jun 18 2005, 07:21 PM)

QUOTE (alexb618 @ Jun 18 2005, 07:04 PM) there is no apostrophe in the plural of samurai No no no Alex.... if a word end's with an 's' it must have an apostrophe... it appear's that you have to re sit "Introduction to Intarnet Grammar"

thank's for the tip

QUOTE (alexb618 @ Jun 18 2005, 09:06 PM)

QUOTE (wojtek @ Jun 18 2005, 07:21 PM) QUOTE (alexb618 @ Jun 18 2005, 07:04 PM) there is no apostrophe in the plural of samurai No no no Alex.... if a word end's with an 's' it must have an apostrophe... it appear's that you have to re sit "Introduction to Intarnet Grammar" thank's for the tip

actually, that was my bad. i knew it was incorrect as soon as i'd posted it but didnt get a chance to fix it.. i was driving to town thinking 'damn, i should have edited it while i had the chance'

so i will do that now. pedantic fucker. you're worse than me!

zatoichi - fuckin good movie - fuckin cool samurai! http://www.zatoichi.co.uk/



This post has been edited by melly on Jun 19 2005, 01:54 AM

Vote #1 Ninja!

Or at least I will until I am given a samurai emoticon to use.

Fear me!

wooo! poll added!

http://www.realultimatepower.net/

this should answer the question...

yeah but ninjas have to hide so they dont get their ass kicked.


ninja in a bin?

I think ninjas are the way to go, samurai have that whole cant attack people from behind or they have to kill themselves honor code thing.

pfffft everyone talks about the "honour" of teh samurai, well we can clearly see here teh honourable ninja looking for a fair fight and the clunky evil samurai hiding like a fuck behind the corner with a motherfucker bow and arrow, wheres teh honor in that?

hahahahahahhaha

theres a guy at my work who is a ninjitsu instructor, has been in a few photoshoots for some fighting magazine too

im kinda scared of him to be honest

QUOTE (Professor Booty @ Jun 19 2005, 12:28 PM)

pfffft everyone talks about the "honour" of teh samurai, well we can clearly see here teh honourable ninja looking for a fair fight and the clunky evil samurai hiding like a fuck behind the corner with a motherfucker bow and arrow, wheres teh honor in that?

HAHAHA the last ninja. that is gold!!

QUOTE (Professor Booty @ Jun 19 2005, 12:28 PM)

pfffft everyone talks about the "honour" of teh samurai, well we can clearly see here teh honourable ninja looking for a fair fight and the clunky evil samurai hiding like a fuck behind the corner with a motherfucker bow and arrow, wheres teh honor in that?

QUOTE (Professor Booty @ Jun 19 2005, 12:28 PM)

pfffft everyone talks about the "honour" of teh samurai, well we can clearly see here teh honourable ninja looking for a fair fight and the clunky evil samurai hiding like a fuck behind the corner with a motherfucker bow and arrow, wheres teh honor in that?

OMG! I lurved that game on C64

Here's a real cool tid bit of Ninja history - back when they used to have the "quick draw duels" back in the day, some Ninja used to shorten their swords by 10-20 cm and still keep the standard length scabbard - this was a good trick as when you were drawing, you would have your sword out first and get the upper hand. The left over room in the scabbard was filled with blinding powder, to throw at any friends of the dude you just sliced, who were about to chase you or something.. Kinda the whole "He who fights and runs away, lives to fight another day" thing goin on

Ninja's Kick Ass!

fuck this!

pirates still win hands down.

QUOTE (gav @ Jun 21 2005, 11:33 AM)

fuck this! pirates still win hands down.

What about Ninja-Pirates!?

Yeah.. Think about it

For all your ninja needs...

http://www.realultimatepower.net/



p.s. take note of Seppuku

This post has been edited by meth0d on Jun 21 2005, 12:07 PM

QUOTE (Cammo @ Jun 19 2005, 11:37 AM)

http://www.realultimatepower.net/ this should answer the question...

oops didnt see that

QUOTE (LovelyDrift @ Jun 18 2005, 06:51 PM)

QUOTE (Energy3 @ Jun 18 2005, 06:12 PM) " A book called, the art of a Ninja, by Stephen K Haynes whom was trained under a Grand Master Dr Hatsumi in Japan, stated this" While we're off the topic, who hasnt trained under Grandmaster Hatsumi's system of Bujinkan Taijutsu? Sorry if i offend anyone with this comment, but anyone who studys at a "McDojo", training in "McMartialArts" such as Bujinkan cannot be taken seriously by people who study genuine koryu imho just as someone who thinks McDonald's is fine food cannot be considered a culinary connosiuer by those who are serious about food

So many misleading forms about'. koryu you suggest where is this trained in Adelaide'.

I was not offended, as what ia stated has led it to this.

Awesome thread, love the ninja in the bin'... so funny"..

ninjas they got thoes nun chucks n stuff

QUOTE (meth0d @ Jun 21 2005, 12:06 PM)

For all your ninja needs... http://www.realultimatepower.net/ p.s. take note of Seppuku

That's Gold mate!!

Wellwicked

QUOTE (Energy3 @ Jun 21 2005, 12:48 PM)

QUOTE (LovelyDrift @ Jun 18 2005, 06:51 PM) QUOTE (Energy3 @ Jun 18 2005, 06:12 PM) " A book called, the art of a Ninja, by Stephen K Haynes whom was trained under a Grand Master Dr Hatsumi in Japan, stated this" While we're off the topic, who hasnt trained under Grandmaster Hatsumi's system of Bujinkan Taijutsu? Sorry if i offend anyone with this comment, but anyone who studys at a "McDojo", training in "McMartialArts" such as Bujinkan cannot be taken seriously by people who study genuine koryu imho just as someone who thinks McDonald's is fine food cannot be considered a culinary connosiuer by those who are serious about food So many misleading forms about'. koryu you suggest where is this trained in Adelaide'. I was not offended, as what ia stated has led it to this. Awesome thread, love the ninja in the bin'... so funny"..

I didnt say you were offended, that post was directed not towards you but anyone who possibly studies or has studied the Bujinkan way of Ninjitsu.

Koryu is not a single style, it's the collective term for the older Japanese Martial Arts. (Kinda like how Kung-Fu refers to the collective Chinese Martial Arts)

PM me if you have any questions

QUOTE (Professor Booty @ Jun 19 2005, 12:28 PM)

pfffft everyone talks about the "honour" of teh samurai, well we can clearly see here teh honourable ninja looking for a fair fight and the clunky evil samurai hiding like a fuck behind the corner with a motherfucker bow and arrow, wheres teh honor in that?

HES CAMPING!

can i download that LAST NINJA game for my comp? looks awesome!

QUOTE (Quazza @ Jun 21 2005, 03:54 PM)

QUOTE (Professor Booty @ Jun 19 2005, 12:28 PM) pfffft everyone talks about the "honour" of teh samurai, well we can clearly see here teh honourable ninja looking for a fair fight and the clunky evil samurai hiding like a fuck behind the corner with a motherfucker bow and arrow, wheres teh honor in that? HES CAMPING!

It's not Counter Strike!

This post has been edited by LovelyDrift on Jun 21 2005, 04:05 PM

Samurai's are phat, they just stand there an state without words "Bring It!!"

Ninja's have cooler clothing and gadgets.

I really can't choose.

Samurai had no fear of death, they believed that they were dead already so as to be able to give their maximum in battle.

As much as Booty's argument is convincing, Samurai are/were the shizzle of Japan imo

Definately LD.... Thats why they were second only to the Daimyo in the feuadal system. Eta were considered scum.

QUOTE (trashy_chica @ Jun 21 2005, 03:56 PM)

can i download that LAST NINJA game for my comp? looks awesome!

Would prolly be able to download it and play using some sort of c64 emulator on the net.

Ninja votes seem to have it, I'd say... Sayonara Samurai

This post has been edited by Turbulence on Jun 21 2005, 04:58 PM

QUOTE (LovelyDrift @ Jun 21 2005, 04:04 PM)

QUOTE (Quazza @ Jun 21 2005, 03:54 PM) QUOTE (Professor Booty @ Jun 19 2005, 12:28 PM) pfffft everyone talks about the "honour" of teh samurai, well we can clearly see here teh honourable ninja looking for a fair fight and the clunky evil samurai hiding like a fuck behind the corner with a motherfucker bow and arrow, wheres teh honor in that? HES CAMPING! It's not Counter Strike!

Shit i remember that game.. haha.

WHAT ... THE ... FUCK
Why on earth does this thread even exist? Ninja. Ninja would win. Ninja's are the fucking shit.

Ever play Ninja Gaiden? Proof that a single Ninja can take out the whole world and still stay honorable.

QUOTE (Mayday @ Jun 21 2005, 04:50 PM)

Definately LD.... Thats why they were second only to the Daimyo in the feuadal system.  Eta were considered scum.

*nods*


samurais rule.

This post has been edited by melly on Jul 8 2005, 12:32 PM

QUOTE (JackAttack @ Jul 8 2005, 12:04 PM)

Proof that a single Ninja can take out the whole world and still stay honorable.

To be a Ninja is to be unseen.

Wheres the honour in killing someone in their sleep?

again the resourcful nature of the ninja is proven





edit : LD heres a ninja, I can see him, whats wrong with you?

This post has been edited by Professor Booty on Jul 8 2005, 12:39 PM

I'll represent for the Samurai crew, anyone wanna fight for the Ninja's? Come find me if you think that Ninja is better than Samurai!

PS: Ninja's coming out of teh drug store with sword in hand clearly implies they robbed said drug store. Where's teh honour in robbing an innocent drug store, probably run by hard working family people struggling to make a living in their respective urban metropolis

This post has been edited by LovelyDrift on Jul 8 2005, 01:02 PM

i'd like to see that happen, drifty is becoming quite the swordsman


booty: what are you on about? he's sneaking out of a drugs store with more poison to dishonorably kill more people while they sleep

if you're going to kill someone, do it properly and do it with a bit of style

This post has been edited by melly on Jul 8 2005, 01:09 PM

QUOTE (Professor Booty @ Jul 8 2005, 12:38 PM)

Fact still remains, that pic is GOLD

QUOTE (LovelyDrift @ Jul 8 2005, 12:58 PM)

Where's teh honour in robbing an innocent drug store, probably run by hard working family people struggling to make a living in their respective urban metropolis

QUOTE (trashy_chica @ Jun 17 2005, 12:36 PM)

as for memoirs of a geisha, wikkid book! there is another GEISHA book out, called geisha, actually by a JAPANESE woman this time. with a slightly more tragic twist.. i'd recommend it over memoirs of a geisha here ya go, its called Geisha: A Life, by mineko iwasaki

Thanks girly......i'll check it out, i absolutely adore Memoirs of a Geisha

QUOTE (LovelyDrift @ Jul 8 2005, 12:58 PM)

I'll represent for the Samurai crew, anyone wanna fight for the Ninja's? Come find me if you think that Ninja is better than Samurai!

I draw ur attention to teh Neo Geo classic - Samurai Showdown, in the background we can clearly see that the guy judging and controlling things is a NINJA! Samurais are so wak they cant even sort out their own showdowns, pffft

Did Tom Cruise choose to play the role of a Ninja?

No, because they suck. Samurai wins!

Noddy: Thanks for backing the Samurai cause! Honour over Stealth anyday!

Booty: That aint no ninja! Thats a shimpan (jap word for referee) wearing the traditional Jap dress for what they wore during the pre-Meiji era! Ninjas chug the cock so hard, they need to wear facemasks to stop them forcing the cock down their throat all the time otherwise they'd suffocate and DIE

QUOTE (Noddy @ Jul 8 2005, 02:18 PM)

Did Tom Cruise choose to play the role of a Ninja? No, because they suck. Samurai wins!

Samurais can have Tom Cruise, the ninjas will look after Katie Holmes

QUOTE (LovelyDrift @ Jul 8 2005, 02:23 PM)

Ninjas chug the cock so hard, they need to wear facemasks to stop them forcing the cock down their throat all the time otherwise they'd suffocate and DIE

Nuff said

cant believe ninja's are winning the poll

they just flick ninja stars around and shit, samurai's use the stealth of the sword

Samurais have enough honour to face an opponent without resorting to poison blades and underhanded tactics. Samurais should win this damn poll based on the coolness of their armour alone.

QUOTE (LovelyDrift @ Jul 8 2005, 02:23 PM)

Noddy: Thanks for backing the Samurai cause! Honour over Stealth anyday! Booty: That aint no ninja! Thats a shimpan (jap word for referee) wearing the traditional Jap dress for what they wore during the pre-Meiji era! Ninjas chug the cock so hard, they need to wear facemasks to stop them forcing the cock down their throat all the time otherwise they'd suffocate and DIE

post of the week!!!!!

who cares about honour
your trained too kill, not to dance infront of someone
you might as well get the suprise attack
Movies like Azumi are wicked ninja movies, love that movie



This post has been edited by DarrenJ on Jul 8 2005, 09:05 PM

azumi is a samurai


der

Ahhh I see people are voting ninja...just as I suggested they did
*rubs hands gleefully*

Samurai's are junglists. Ninja's still think hardcore is cool.

If you ever wanted proof of this being true, and why Ninja's choke on cock, here it is.....


Attached Image (Click thumbnail to expand)

ninja party's are dope..


This post has been edited by t23 on Jul 9 2005, 05:58 AM

QUOTE (melly @ Jul 8 2005, 10:40 PM)

azumi is a samurai der

but shes a lot more like a ninja, in her skills being honed to be purely used to kill.. her ways of killing are def not that honourable, u have to agree on that!

QUOTE (Noddy @ Jul 8 2005, 11:01 PM)

Samurai's are junglists. Ninja's still think hardcore is cool. If you ever wanted proof of this being true, and why Ninja's choke on cock, here it is.....

What drugs are you on? Ninjas have their own label : Ninja Tunes.

The Herbalist, Jagga Jaggist, Amon Tobin, ColdCut , Dj Scruff, Kid Koala, Cinematic Orchestra ...

Cutting edge breaks, future drum and bass, nu-jazz, and generally funking it up all over the place. It's a good comparison - Ninjas are open minded and flexible in their musical tastes, where according to you Samurai's only listen to D&B.

This is why Ninjas are superior. Flexibility and open mindedness with a cool musical background.

hhhahahha, dbb DOES have a point there

QUOTE (melly @ Jul 8 2005, 09:40 PM)

azumi is a samurai der

no she isnt
she was trained by a samurai to become a assasan
i thought no.2 was boring thu

QUOTE (dbb @ Jul 9 2005, 10:08 PM)

QUOTE (Noddy @ Jul 8 2005, 11:01 PM) Samurai's are junglists. Ninja's still think hardcore is cool. If you ever wanted proof of this being true, and why Ninja's choke on cock, here it is..... What drugs are you on? Ninjas have their own label : Ninja Tunes. The Herbalist, Jagga Jaggist, Amon Tobin, ColdCut , Dj Scruff, Kid Koala, Cinematic Orchestra ... Cutting edge breaks, future drum and bass, nu-jazz, and generally funking it up all over the place. It's a good comparison - Ninjas are open minded and flexible in their musical tastes, where according to you Samurai's only listen to D&B. This is why Ninjas are superior. Flexibility and open mindedness with a cool musical background.

http://66.36.249.159:60/Addictive_Vinyl_Ex...ja_Hardcore.mp3

all i have to go by is that tom cruise movie and a samurai game i had as a kid on my old master system. i kicked arse at that game.

samurai's for sure. not only did they give tom cruise a whooping but they owned the ninjas when they attacked.

that is all.

much prefer the full on sword fighting so go samurais!!

Ninja's are a bunch of cowards who attack from behind. Very poor form.

Honour will always get my respect.

what? disembowell myself just cause my liege lord made a bad decision?
fuk that shit..

the only reason you people don't think ninjas have honour is cause we're so stealth about our existence that it hasn't even occured to you that we might have our own codes..

This post has been edited by t23 on Jul 10 2005, 02:17 AM

QUOTE (Noddy @ Jul 10 2005, 02:01 AM)

Ninja's are a bunch of cowards who attack from behind. Very poor form. Honour will always get my respect.

who do samurais turn to to do their dirty work? the stuff they don't want to do themselves?
yeah, that's right..



nuff said..

QUOTE (melly @ Jun 18 2005, 02:47 PM)

no way the ability to carelessly slice someone in half and make it look impressive is a beautiful thing

no, more impressive is carelessly slicing someone in half then disappearing before anyone even notices anything is wrong..

having said that, there are samurai worthy of respect, but these tend to be rogues [eg musashi] who did their own thing, or ronin who having no master learnt to believe in themselves rather than adhere to some orthodox hierachy [eg sevenn samurai]..






[seriously though:]

i'm a fan of both but in a deathmatch, all things being equal, i'd go ninja, no artificial culturally determined restraints to get in the way, plus a better understanding of energy flows [death touch techniques etc], all learnt while samurai were busy writing haiku about how the autumn wind moves the cherry blossom, like mother watches baby...

samurais have better uniforms though, ninjas for some reason all tend to look alike..

I have to go ninja...

Found this online...

"The Ninja sword was inferior in quality to the Samurai. Another reason for the poor quality of the swords is that since the ninja was mostly mountain people and outlaws, they could not afford to hire expert sword smiths like the samurai class. Also their own sword smiths did not have access to the right resources to be able to make curved edge swords with well constructed blades. If a Ninja could overcome a samurai he would take his swords, simply because they are better.

Although the ninja sword was smaller and poorer quality, it had many uses. The scabbard for instance was made longer than the sword, about 3 to 4 inches longer. At the end of the scabbard there was a hidden compartment that was used to hide small weapons such as spikes, daggers or small amounts of poisons.

Another use the sword had was that it could act as a small step by jamming the blade into the ground, the ninja could use the hand-guard as a step to get that extra height needed to scale a wall. Because the blade was not very sharp, the ninja could also use it as a hammer by holding onto the blade (carefully) and hitting with the handle. Also it was common to have the tip of the scabbard come off so it could be used as a snorkel"

interesting... the old Ninja was bit more James Bond

I'm a ninja, I stay in anono mode on RA!

samurais are way cooler, swords n weapons bring it on!!

I didn't see any Samurais at W/ Enchanted.

Im surprised you saw very much at all!

QUOTE (Mayday @ Jul 12 2005, 08:33 AM)

Im surprised you saw very much at all!

I see everything, even Dead people....

QUOTE (^NEMESIS^ @ Jul 12 2005, 08:28 AM)

I didn't see any Samurais at W/ Enchanted.

only cause i didnt think they'd let me in with my sword

anyways, who was the ninja wearing Sanouske's jacket? Sano isnt a ninja!

my vote goes to the ninja, steal minds, they dont use guns, guns are weak ass piss imo, i know samarai use swords but they use guns too.

QUOTE (melly @ Jul 12 2005, 09:22 AM)

QUOTE (^NEMESIS^ @ Jul 12 2005, 08:28 AM) I didn't see any Samurais at W/ Enchanted. only cause i didnt think they'd let me in with my sword

They let me in with mine..

QUOTE (fuck yer @ Jul 12 2005, 09:42 AM)

my vote goes to the ninja, steal minds, they dont use guns, guns are weak ass piss imo, i know samarai use swords but they use guns too.

what drugs are you on? samurais dont use guns!

Melly: Yes they did actually. Though not all of them chose to use them. Samurai were the 1st people in Japan to actually use guns to effect in battle.

Fuck Yer: Ninjas used guns too!

A Ninja would ALWAYS use a stronger weapon than their enemy if they had one available. A samurai would avoid using a stronger weapon where they could.

Samurai used rifles in the 16th century

yeah, i knew that to a certain degree, but in terms of this arguement, it's not a preferred weapon for either party so the point is null and void. let's talk pre white influence on japanese culture



hahahahahah i need to stop watching anime and japanese films. *goes to hide underbed*

Does batman go to Tibet to get samurai training? noooooo sireee, he learns the way of the ninja. I think batman certification of the superiority of the ninja over the samurai pretty much closes this debate

*yawn*

he's a freak in a bat suit!

if you're going to quote movies, who was cooler than uma thruman in kill bill?

she wasnt some stupid little ninja was she? she has true warrior spirit!

and how much of her training was actually chinese martial arts? i man, sure she had a SAMURAI SWORD but she did train an awful lot of chinese technqiues... so the argument reallyshould extend BEYOND the sphere orf just SAMURAI or NINJA, and include SWORDSMAN vs NONSWORDSMAN wouldnt u think?

and good point ted

This post has been edited by trashy_chica on Jul 22 2005, 11:31 AM

Batman was not trained in just one form of martial art and the real Ra's Al Ghul was a master of the sabre, not ninja or samurai.

Just had to make sure Hollywood doesn't warp the legend of the dark knight like they have D-Day (Saving Private Ryan), French Revolution (Any of the Muskateer movies) etc.

Samurai have better swords