NEW VIDEO SECTION on Rave Adelaide!

We are Rave Adelaide are pleased to announce that we have a new contributor on board!
Many of you know him and most of you will know his work!

His name is Yancey ... or known as Rave Adelaide member 808

He has been so kind to give Rave Adelaide alot of video clips from the last year or so.
Get used to seeing more and more video clips appearing on Rave Adelaide.

In the first installment we have various parties from over the last year including a clip from last years Dance Music Awards plus a 2003 Highlights package!
We want to hear your comments! so in each individual video thread, members can make comments!

This feature is only available to Rave Adelaide members... so guests, you will have to REGISTER on Rave Adelaide to have access to these video clips!

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We are Rave Adelaide are pleased to announce that we have a new contributor on board!
Many of you know him and most of you will know his work!

His name is Yancey ... or known as Rave Adelaide member 808

He has been so kind to give Rave Adelaide alot of video clips from the last year or so.
Get used to seeing more and more video clips appearing on Rave Adelaide.

In the first installment we have various parties from over the last year including a clip from last years Dance Music Awards plus a 2003 Highlights package!
We want to hear your comments! so in each individual video thread, members can make comments!

This feature is only available to Rave Adelaide members... so guests, you will have to REGISTER on Rave Adelaide to have access to these video clips!

Click here to jump to the "Video" section

just downloaded the tidy trax clip, fuck! I almost forgot how good that night was!

Everyone knows that Yancey is the man... and we are more than happy to welcome him into the family at RaveAdelaide.

Welcome Yancey!

Good on ya yancey! You're a great asset to this industry and your hard work is definitely appreciated!

Big ups!

great idea havin a video section , big ups to yancey for supplying the visuals

Just downloaded the 2004 DMA's clip - interested why there is a track in the background right the way through, instead of having the audio mixed in for each award (ie you can't hear what they said)

Good idea though Spadge - some nice clips in there, some different to the ones at Yancey/ITM website, and the video/audio compression is better quailty too (latest 9.1 codecs in 270kbps, instead of older V8 codecs in 220kbps)

Just a question, why couldn't these be done in a higher bitrate in the future, say 500kbps or even 700? Server size concerns or is it more to do with piracy & not wanting people to have high quality clips? Don't get me wrong i'm thankful for what we have here, but just wanted to ask the question.

I know some ppl are on dialup, but even the largest clip (45mb) is put out to 90mb at 500kbps or 135mb at 750kbps - which really doesn't take that long to download even on dialup!

This post has been edited by jjcoolaus on May 18 2005, 11:35 AM

server restrictions is definitely 1 reason

as for yanceys side you'll have to ask him

QUOTE (jjcoolaus @ May 18 2005, 11:33 AM)

Just a question, why couldn't these be done in a higher bitrate in the future, say 500kbps or even 700? Server size concerns or is it more to do with piracy & not wanting people to have high quality clips? Don't get me wrong i'm thankful for what we have here, but just wanted to ask the question. I know some ppl are on dialup, but even the largest clip (45mb) is put out to 90mb at 500kbps or 135mb at 750kbps - which really doesn't take that long to download even on dialup!

Never happy are you JJ....

JJ - Dont complain.

ITS FREE.

nice work boys

QUOTE (Mayday @ May 18 2005, 11:50 AM)

JJ - Dont complain. ITS FREE.

I wasn't complaining and thought i made that clear in my post!

BIGUPS to Yancey

JJ just gave me a headache... again!

Have a beer G__ that'll sort you out!

beer is the reason he has so many headaches

good on ya yancey top stuff , i mean u brought bak sum wikid memories but where i can visually see them again

BIG UPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

very impressive work!

just quietly, how fuking great is R.A!

best forum... EVER!

QUOTE (jjcoolaus @ May 18 2005, 11:33 AM)

Just downloaded the 2004 DMA's clip - interested why there is a track in the background right the way through, instead of having the audio mixed in for each award (ie you can't hear what they said) Good idea though Spadge - some nice clips in there, some different to the ones at Yancey/ITM website, and the video/audio compression is better quailty too (latest 9.1 codecs in 270kbps, instead of older V8 codecs in 220kbps) Just a question, why couldn't these be done in a higher bitrate in the future, say 500kbps or even 700? Server size concerns or is it more to do with piracy & not wanting people to have high quality clips? Don't get me wrong i'm thankful for what we have here, but just wanted to ask the question. I know some ppl are on dialup, but even the largest clip (45mb) is put out to 90mb at 500kbps or 135mb at 750kbps - which really doesn't take that long to download even on dialup!

you bring up some good questions which i'm happy to answer...

the newer coder was a major step up from the one itm forces people to use. but bumping up the bit rate will make the files bigger to download.. i worked it out to try and keep the files near the marc of 8 meg for the standard 4 min clip, the smaller the file size the more clips i'll be able to put on the net in respcet to RA's hosting. as for the dma clip, well there is a dvd being release of it at the dma's and the makers of the dvd (me and 618) wanted to keep the main audio just for the dvd.. any way with that track and all the slow mo movement make them look like heros other than the normal look a talking clip would of done.

I'm happy to answer any questions about any clips as i'm not as jumpy as other online film makers and i wont flip my lid over some simply question or statment. i personay dont think there as crash hot compared to whats out there already and in most cases will do the main bagging of my own clips.. to me there just home video of night i bearly remeber cos i was partying right along side ya.

QUOTE (808 @ May 18 2005, 05:26 PM)

the newer coder was a major step up from the one itm forces people to use.

As are our forums

QUOTE (slide @ May 18 2005, 01:20 PM)

just quietly, how fuking great is R.A! best forum... EVER!

Time for a bat......Slide

note - Twice As Nice @ Heaven (Oct 2004)
was filmed by Emma Nefyn (a.k.a. Elff) and also edited by her!!!!
over the years she been my right hand elff when it comes to helping me film events but this was her first rave event she filmed and edited with out me being there, she edited it at my place and i think she did a top job! let hope she does more!!

any chance of gettin the footage from winter enchented at thebby put up

QUOTE (dubbd @ May 18 2005, 04:33 PM)

any chance of gettin the footage from winter enchented at thebby put up

after the dmas and i've had a few days rest i'll look at adding more ef clips.. plus heaps of other stuff seeing i filmed at 35 events last year alone.

QUOTE (808 @ May 18 2005, 04:26 PM)

you bring up some good questions which i'm happy to answer... the newer coder was a major step up from the one itm forces people to use. but bumping up the bit rate will make the files bigger to download.. i worked it out to try and keep the files near the marc of 8 meg for the standard 4 min clip, the smaller the file size the more clips i'll be able to put on the net in respcet to RA's hosting. as for the dma clip, well there is a dvd being release of it at the dma's and the makers of the dvd (me and 618) wanted to keep the main audio just for the dvd.. any way with that track and all the slow mo movement make them look like heros other than the normal look a talking clip would of done. I'm happy to answer any questions about any clips as i'm not as jumpy as other online film makers and i wont flip my lid over some simply question or statment. i personay dont think there as crash hot compared to whats out there already and in most cases will do the main bagging of my own clips.. to me there just home video of night i bearly remeber cos i was partying right along side ya.

thanks heaps for that response, that's great!

No worries on the clips & file size issue - I thought that may be the reason. Your right about the quality being a good step up for only a minor bitrate increase - the difference shows, for example, between the St Clair WE clip on here & the one on the ITM/Yancey sites. Fine for watching on your PC, but you can't really burn it to a DVD & play it on a TV & expect it too look good.

But i'm sure we'd all rather have more & longer clips on the RA site & sacrifice a bit of video quality. I know I would - BIGUPS to you and hopefully we can see more clips on here in the future.

On the DMA's that makes perfect sense then.

Will the Dance Music Awards DVD be available for purchase anywhere? or is it only for industry types & the select few who get to go to the awards?

I would love to buy a copy, if it is going to be sold to the general public, please let us know. I'm sure plenty of punters might be interested, even more so a Yancey DVD that takes all the clips and compiles them on a disc, much like 2 turntables & a microphone one did that was released 2 years back. (which i know you had a lot to do with, as well as the EF 2002 one)

This post has been edited by jjcoolaus on May 18 2005, 04:47 PM

QUOTE (808 @ May 18 2005, 04:37 PM)

QUOTE (dubbd @ May 18 2005, 04:33 PM) any chance of gettin the footage from winter enchented at thebby put up after the dmas and i've had a few days rest i'll look at adding more ef clips.. plus heaps of other stuff seeing i filmed at 35 events last year alone.

thats wikid so wen eva u are ready to add them other vids u got do so because it would be good to see sum footage that aint already on here

I was just wading through ten DVDs of full quality Yancey action the other day! Some fucking great stuff!

QUOTE (G__ @ May 18 2005, 04:51 PM)

I was just wading through ten DVDs of full quality Yancey action the other day! Some fucking great stuff!

Make copies and sell them in the RA shop. I'm sure RA'll make a mint from it (as would Yancey/808 if he was willing to do it).

the movies section's a fuckin rad idea...

i would love to but i don't own the copy right to all the tracks..
plus i'm guessing the promoters of each event would want their cut of any sales...
if i could work out away of doing it that did not leaven me cashless after paying for them to be printed then spiltting the money with promoters and music producers. some of the dvd's i have have up to 10 different promoters shows so i would have to spilt it up with all of them to be fair. i would but when ever i do the math on it i'm left with the least... yet i've done the most work making the dvd.. usual story.

from what ive seen so far these clips are awesome!
bring back lots of fantastic memories
im looking forward to seeing more of them
top work yancey! VERY impressive!

i tried to d/l all i get are text documents!

QUOTE (808 @ May 18 2005, 04:32 PM)

note - Twice As Nice @ Heaven (Oct 2004) was filmed by Emma Nefyn (a.k.a. Elff) and also edited by her!!!! over the years she been my right hand elff when it comes to helping me film events but this was her first rave event she filmed and edited with out me being there, she edited it at my place and i think she did a top job! let hope she does more!!

Aww, shanks yancey! I'm up for more for sure!

QUOTE (spinningtom @ May 18 2005, 08:01 PM)

i tried to d/l all i get are text documents!

save link as

um yes i did that! it works on IE, but not firefox...seems strange

QUOTE (spinningtom @ May 18 2005, 08:45 PM)

um yes i did that! it works on IE, but not firefox...seems strange

Tools -> Options -> Downloads & check your settings (tell it to ask you where to save every file), also in the file types section & what it's doing with WMV files. If nothing is listed in that box, click the plug-ins button. Scroll down & check for Windows Media or WMV files - if it's there untick the plugin - disabling plugins ensures that firefox will download the file instead of trying to open it.

yeah its a dicky firefox thing
you have to "Save As" on the link rather than just click it
or do what JJ said

QUOTE (808 @ May 18 2005, 05:39 PM)

i would love to but i don't own the copy right to all the tracks.. plus i'm guessing the promoters of each event would want their cut of any sales... if i could work out away of doing it that did not leaven me cashless after paying for them to be printed then spiltting the money with promoters and music producers. some of the dvd's i have have up to 10 different promoters shows so i would have to spilt it up with all of them to be fair. i would but when ever i do the math on it i'm left with the least... yet i've done the most work making the dvd.. usual story.

As far as i'm concerned, the promoter got "their cut" when they put on the show & charged for tickets. If i take photos at an event, a promoter has no right to ask me for copyright fees when i post them online. I would've thought video would be in the same league. But we'll be debating that one for decades to come!

I don't understand how licensing fees work or how much they are on each track, but surely the producers got paid their fees when the event was first put on.

But anyway, all this is probably something for another thread.

Cheers for giving RA the vids

QUOTE (jjcoolaus @ May 19 2005, 11:31 AM)

If i take photos at an event, a promoter has no right to ask me for copyright fees when i post them online. I would've thought video would be in the same league.

Your talking about POSTING them on Rave Adelaide
You were originally talking about SELLING video in our shop

totally different arguement

QUOTE (jjcoolaus @ May 19 2005, 10:31 AM)

As far as i'm concerned, the promoter got "their cut" when they put on the show & charged for tickets. If i take photos at an event, a promoter has no right to ask me for copyright fees when i post them online. I would've thought video would be in the same league. But we'll be debating that one for decades to come! I don't understand how licensing fees work or how much they are on each track, but surely the producers got paid their fees when the event was first put on. But anyway, all this is probably something for another thread. Cheers for giving RA the vids

stop yabbering on like a goose and be grateful for once will you

I'm just waiting for the day that next time we do something good for the RA community that JJ just says " Thanks guys" and thats the end!

QUOTE (Spadge @ May 19 2005, 10:23 AM)

yeah its a dicky firefox thing you have to "Save As" on the link rather than just click it or do what JJ said

if he just "clicked the link" in IE the same thing would happen - nothing dicky about it - just normal browser behaviour to make it easy for newbies who, in some cases, don't even know how or where to find the files they download.

That's why firefox is better - you have a lot more options, like asking to save a file before just opening it - try getting IE to prompt you to save a WMV file when you click on a link... anyways i'm getting sidetracked again...

*exists thread*

QUOTE (G__ @ May 19 2005, 10:42 AM)

I'm just waiting for the day that next time we do something good for the RA community that JJ just says " Thanks guys" and thats the end!

Oi you! I've already said thank you several times!

Some excellent memories in there

Thanks for putting them all in one place for us to relive and remember

Top work Yancey - as always

QUOTE (cammyxxoo @ May 19 2005, 11:14 AM)

Some excellent memories in there Thanks for putting them all in one place for us to relive and remember Top work Yancey - as always

gee thats not what you just said on itm forums..

QUOTE (jjcoolaus @ May 19 2005, 11:43 AM)

*exists thread*

really? JJ MADE A MISTAKE!!!!!!!!

gotta be a first

QUOTE (jjcoolaus @ May 19 2005, 10:43 AM)

QUOTE (Spadge @ May 19 2005, 10:23 AM) yeah its a dicky firefox thing you have to "Save As" on the link rather than just click it or do what JJ said if he just "clicked the link" in IE the same thing would happen - nothing dicky about it - just normal browser behaviour to make it easy for newbies who, in some cases, don't even know how or where to find the files they download. That's why firefox is better - you have a lot more options, like asking to save a file before just opening it - try getting IE to prompt you to save a WMV file when you click on a link... anyways i'm getting sidetracked again... *exists thread*

i use ie and it promps me to "open or save" file..

QUOTE (jjcoolaus @ May 19 2005, 10:31 AM)

As far as i'm concerned, the promoter got "their cut" when they put on the show & charged for tickets. If i take photos at an event, a promoter has no right to ask me for copyright fees when i post them online. I would've thought video would be in the same league. But we'll be debating that one for decades to come!

posting photos online for free is one thing, releaseing a dvd for money in shop is another.. photos dont infringe anyones copyright (unless you get some fucker who prints them up in his shop for sales and lies about doing it).. a dvd has a whole lot more than that. the time it takes to film it, the time it takes to edit which is usualy a lot more time than the filming of an event all of this is work time that add up to power cost and etc etc. then once you have the clip ready for the dvd then you have to make the menu system for the dvd itself, i'm sure any one you has seen one of my dvd may have notice i put just as much in to the menus as the dvd (bar the global dvd which were made without menus so they could be played on the night with easy).. also take in to account that if i charge a promoter to film at a gig they would have as much right to then turn around and charge me for the rights of filming there gig which they could ask for anything from the fee i'm chargeing to 10 times that. so forgoing a filming fee has worked out for me and the releated promoters so far... so even before it's release there are many question about money, ownership which all end in copyrights... you dont get that shit taking happy snaps.. for me there is no debate about it.

any way jj asking questions is a good thing as not enough people do it, they just read it or heard it then belive it without question.

Hey this is a awesome idea I downloaded last years Winter Enchanted clip and its a wmv file so I went to play it in winamp and I could only hear the sound. I right clicked and then clickd the video icon and I still had no picture does someone know what to do. I really want to see the clip.

play it in Windows Media Player

QUOTE (808 @ May 19 2005, 03:02 PM)

gee thats not what you just said on itm forums..

The clips are good - ok.

video section = great idea! does anybody know if there will ever be some footage put up of summer enchanted 2004?

QUOTE (pac-man @ May 21 2005, 01:17 PM)

video section = great idea! does anybody know if there will ever be some footage put up of summer enchanted 2004?

in particular footage of Narc + Mc Sharkey, NEC Live or Oddball and Subbo!

i guess that would depend on a couple of things...

1) did Yancey or crew record any
2) will the Enchanted crew allow footage on RA

Yancey would know the answer

QUOTE (jjcoolaus @ May 19 2005, 10:31 AM)

As far as i'm concerned, the promoter got "their cut" when they put on the show & charged for tickets. If i take photos at an event, a promoter has no right to ask me for copyright fees when i post them online. I would've thought video would be in the same league. But we'll be debating that one for decades to come! I don't understand how licensing fees work or how much they are on each track, but surely the producers got paid their fees when the event was first put on.

So using this logic, when a musician tours, the record label wont get any money on sales of the "concert live" DVD and the musician only gets paid when they play at the concert and not everytime someone sells a copy of some of their music...

Its not really up for debate. There are copyright laws around it.

so what videos can i post???

SCOOTER

QUOTE (DavyG @ May 21 2005, 02:39 PM)

QUOTE (pac-man @ May 21 2005, 01:17 PM) video section = great idea! does anybody know if there will ever be some footage put up of summer enchanted 2004? in particular footage of Narc + Mc Sharkey, NEC Live or Oddball and Subbo!

i have some wicked footage with sharky and narc, even the sound from the cam is not too bad... after the dma's i'll have a real good look in to how much footage i have to make a full clip...

QUOTE (ozscooter @ May 21 2005, 06:44 PM)

so what videos can i post??? SCOOTER

scooter sucks

go to bed!

QUOTE (ozscooter @ May 21 2005, 07:44 PM)

so what videos can i post???

none
only admin can post video

hay nice work with the clips! just wondering if u had one of e7???

cheerz

QUOTE (Tyson @ May 25 2005, 06:56 PM)

hay nice work with the clips! just wondering if u had one of e7??? cheerz

the new summer interviews are edited, uploaded and ready to go, just waiting for a the ra crew to list them...

any one know when the new clips will go up...

2005 DMA highlight clip... aka the best of 2004 (35 events in 10 mins)
summer enchanted 2004...
system6 @ earth....

I think those clips went up just then...

FUCKEN RIPPER!!!!