H-Bomb - Atomic Warrior

At this years Enchanted i will be releasing my new cd


H-BOMB - Atomic Warrior


20 tracks of brand new Dutch Hardcore

the cd will set you back $20

so if you want your dose of hardcore any time you want, then this is the cd for you

KEEP IT HARD!!!

H-BOMB

$20???!!!
So the artists will be getting royalties then?

QUOTE (Bongo @ Nov 17 2003, 09:08 PM)

$20???!!! So the artists will be getting royalties then?

you would think so ....

unless some1 wants a law suit

Do people still charge for CDs?

On that note, I have a mountain of Noddy - Live at Ultraworld Anthems CDs I will be giving away at Push on Saturday night.

40 odd copies so the first people to bug me get copies. Gin & Tonics also healp your chances of me being generous.

Well I feel if you're gunna charge $20 then the artists definately deserve a cut... if you're gunna charge summat like $2-$4 or something just to cover your expenses (printing, burning etc.) then fair enough.

Any chance you could save one of those for me Noddy? Won't be at push tho'.... But would still love a copy

Saved for ya but its got a fair bit of happy hard on there mate......lol

ah well just have to make sure I'm in a happy, tolerant mood when I listen to it then hehe
hmmm not a bad attempt at hijacking it either eh?

nice one lay lay!
ripping off the punters that support you
hah

$20?

Man, that's the most expensive drinks' coaster I have ever heard about...

Legal or moral issues aside,
if people want to fork over $20 then why the hell not

Funny that

last year's ones were more expensive in the shops and sold a heap of them

I'm a resonable man and have no intention in ripping off the people that follow me
so they will be at the same price as last years at Enchanted

and if you want to know what the price is, then come see me at Enchanted to find out


On another note, i do have a few TAPES that i have bought over the years from local Dj's that have been around $20, so odviously it isn't to expensive

Anyway

Keep It HARD!!!

H-BOMB

nah, was just takin' the piss...

can I have one on TAPE

don't have a CD player

TAPES will be $30 mate,

going by the inflation rate

mate you should blow a load of jizz all over the cd cover
it would be worth 50 bucks then

QUOTE (Da Bomb @ Nov 17 2003, 11:49 PM)

Funny that last year's ones were more expensive in the shops and sold a heap of them I'm a resonable man and have no intention in ripping off the people that follow me so they will be at the same price as last years at Enchanted and if you want to know what the price is, then come see me at Enchanted to find out On another note, i do have a few TAPES that i have bought over the years  from local Dj's that have been around $20, so odviously it isn't to expensive Anyway Keep It HARD!!! H-BOMB

Still turns an illegal promotional exercise into a profitable illegal one tho doesn't it?
I'd be less than impressed if I was one of the artists involved.
But woj is right, if people wanna get ripped off then go ahead...

I dont really give a fuck, but how is this different from the Kev Energy set at Enchanted being sold? Is he giving royalties for the other producers tracks that HE played?

And I remember at Rush sets selling of Oddy , Mr S and other locals from parties such as EF and Stardust.. would you step up to the plate against them Bongo? pfft

QUOTE (G__ @ Nov 18 2003, 10:25 AM)

I dont really give a fuck, but how is this different from the Kev Energy set at Enchanted being sold? Is he giving royalties for the other producers tracks that HE played? And I remember at Rush sets selling of Oddy , Mr S and other locals from parties such as EF and Stardust.. would you step up to the plate against them Bongo? pfft

There is a difference with Kev Energy.

If he sells one of his sets you can be pretty sure that a lot of the tunes on it are either made by him or on his label. Or he would be sharing his tunes with other producers on there and them with him.

He isnt just taking other peoples productions and profiting from them.

Personally, Id rather see local DJs simply put their sets up on the net for people to download for free. That way there is no cost to the DJ (blank cds etc) and it is being used for its actual purpose of being a promotional CD.

QUOTE (Noddy @ Nov 18 2003, 11:10 AM)

QUOTE (G__ @ Nov 18 2003, 10:25 AM) I dont really give a fuck, but how is this different from the Kev Energy set at Enchanted being sold? Is he giving royalties for the other producers tracks that HE played? And I remember at Rush sets selling of Oddy , Mr S and other locals from parties such as EF and Stardust.. would you step up to the plate against them Bongo? pfft There is a difference with Kev Energy. If he sells one of his sets you can be pretty sure that a lot of the tunes on it are either made by him or on his label. Or he would be sharing his tunes with other producers on there and them with him. He isnt just taking other peoples productions and profiting from them. Personally, Id rather see local DJs simply put their sets up on the net for people to download for free. That way there is no cost to the DJ (blank cds etc) and it is being used for its actual purpose of being a promotional CD.

Yeah, I'll step up to the plate, hell, it's not like I'm pursueing them/him legally or anything, all I'm saying is I don't like it. (making profit on cd's with copyright material)
Asking a bit of money to cover expenses is justified imho.
Look at it this way, what if you made an awesome choon that you'd spent months working on and then you go and see some dj selling a cd with your track on and making a nice tidy profit out of it? In essence, making a lot of money from just doing a lazy 1 hr mix compared to your months of hard work.
Would you like some of that profit?


If I could put my mixes online easily, I would. But I'm relegated to giving cd's away, I could never ask anything more than a few dollars to cover expenses in making it. But, I'm an innocent little country yokel so blaze away.

QUOTE (Bongo @ Nov 18 2003, 02:02 PM)

Look at it this way, what if you made an awesome choon that you'd spent months working on and then you go and see some dj selling a cd with your track on and making a nice tidy profit out of it?

Valid point, but if you split the profits between all artists on the cd, the tidy little profit is gone... If it was mass produced then id agree with you boonga, but for 20-30 copies, the process involved in clearing tunes would be a headfuck, the costs could quite possibly be more than the profits as well, and if a label said no get fucked then the whole mix cant be sold.

I know Kev sees it as great promotion for his music, as does Chris C.

If you made an awesome tune and had it released, someone else put it on a mix and sold it, it would still expose your tune to more people with other bedroom DJs picking it up on vinyl.

Unlike other music, having a tune on a mix cd doesnt negate the need of having it on vinyl

QUOTE (wojtek @ Nov 18 2003, 01:17 PM)

Unlike other music, having a tune on a mix cd doesnt negate the need of having it on vinyl

Valid points,
but if you don't dj and you're just a raver then you don't need it on vinyl do ya? And maybe they won't see the need to go out and get it on a label's mix cd or something.
20-30 copies doesn't cost much to burn and print...

20-30 copies = $400-$600.......
1 hr spent mixing.... 15 minutes splitting tracks, mastering... 2-3 hours burning cd's and cutting/printing labels
Was that $600 you received a lot of money for just 4-5 hrs work?

In the end it comes down to the artists doesn't it? Or the dj's conscience?

nice plurry end
you guys can pull each other off now

QUOTE (Noddy @ Nov 17 2003, 09:27 PM)

Do people still charge for CDs? On that note, I have a mountain of Noddy - Live at Ultraworld Anthems CDs I will be giving away at Push on Saturday night. 40 odd copies so the first people to bug me get copies. Gin & Tonics also healp your chances of me being generous.

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If its free I'll have two!! bring one to the Bar and I am may even lube the genorosity wheels with a propa Bombay gnT

double post

IMO - charging 20 pineapples for a mix CD is a bit wrong. Any commerically released complilation has to have every track fully licensed before it can be used. Even though burning CDs for people is technically wrong as well I see there being a little bit of leway as it gets an artists work out there, but charging $20 is making profit of what is largely other peoples work. I spose at the end of the day, one person mite buy it for 20 clams and will probably burn it for all their mates anyway.

do we get a tracklisting?

In the end its just the hardcore artists getting rammed... not a real worry

I love hardcore, no really!

QUOTE (wojtek @ Nov 18 2003, 08:33 PM)

In the end its just the hardcore artists getting rammed... not a real worry I love hardcore, no really!

QUOTE (Bongo @ Nov 18 2003, 01:02 PM)

Look at it this way, what if you made an awesome choon that you'd spent months working on and then you go and see some dj selling a cd with your track on and making a nice tidy profit out of it? In essence, making a lot of money from just doing a lazy 1 hr mix compared to your months of hard work. Would you like some of that profit?

Personally, I would just be stoked that he/she deemed one of my tracks worthy of putting on a mix CD that he/she wants to distribute...

Free Advertising...

Once again... side stepped the issue... Oddy and Mr S were doing the same.. you cunts are quick to bag the hardcore cos you dont like the genre.. but they were doing the same only a year or so ago... so why is that OK then? but i dont get a response from the lapdogs!

its not okay, I never said it was, anyone selling what is largely someone elses music for profit is wrong pure and simple. Fuck technincally u are meant to get a license to play ("broadcast") CDs in your business (restuarants for example). Handing out CDs to boost your profile is one thing, making a few $$ on it is another when it is someone elses music u are using without permission.

but will the boong cunt say that?

i think its a great idea and im gonna buy 2 of em !!!


and look out for the fully licencesed encahanted, system 6 and adelade frantc cds comin soon !

surprise surprise..bongo has disappeared

QUOTE (Noddy @ Nov 18 2003, 11:10 AM)

Personally, Id rather see local DJs simply put their sets up on the net for people to download for free. That way there is no cost to the DJ (blank cds etc) and it is being used for its actual purpose of being a promotional CD.

of course theres still costs. u have to buy the tunes first which most people do, and they arent fukkn cheap, esp when you consider how much we actually get paid for gigs in australia. then theres net acces, which can be damn expenisve as well, esp if you have adsl or similar which is usually capped so once you go over your limit u pay more.

its such a grey area.

we already pay the artists money for there music by purchasing their tunes. i dont see why selling a few copies of a cd mixed by yourself is such a big deal.
how many times do people ask if theres a cd of yours they can get or so on??

plus it still promotes the music and artists you put on there as well as yourself, which may have been heard but no one one have a clue who did it or what its called etc.

i know that id be pretty majorly pissed off if someone made a mix cd with one of my tunes in it and was making a substantial(sp?) profit from it, but if its only a few copies then its not really gonna upset me cause its still promotion.