Wine

I seem to be starting to enjoy wine, and want to try more, but I know sweet FA about it. What's a good drop? got any personal favourites?


I just got a bottle of grant burge barossa merlot which I am liking a fair bit, and a st hugo coonawarra cab sav that I'm just getting a feel for

banrock station roset not sure of its actual name. but kirty loves it

paddle wheel fruity lexia

I can't quite take Reds yet, but I don't mind some whites. But I wouldn't know what a cab sav was, or a Merlot... and I'd mix up a savignon with a burgundy!

My suggestion: Spend the extra $5 and avoid goon.

Trust me.

goon has its place alright, but at the moment I'm trying to drink to enjoy the taste of what I'm drinking rather than to get smashed... although that might be a side effect with these 2 bottles sitting here

I had some realy nice wine friday (though i was drunk and it would have tasted good)... I'd like to start drinking it more at home and stuff, but as i have zero knowledge i wouldnt realy know where to start or what was good...

hence this thread

QUOTE (muffins @ Apr 13 2004, 11:32 PM)

goon has its place alright, but at the moment I'm trying to drink to enjoy the taste of what I'm drinking rather than to get smashed... although that might be a side effect with these 2 bottles sitting here

Goon = Foul.

I had a nice Rosemont the other night. I can't remember the grape blend, but it had a very long, peppery aftertaste, which I really liked. I'll see if I can find out what it was!

QUOTE (Trucker @ Apr 13 2004, 11:28 PM)

My suggestion: Spend the extra $5 and avoid goon. Trust me.

but you get so much of it... $20 for 10 litres... you cant go wrong

QUOTE (dnb_junkie @ Apr 13 2004, 11:40 PM)

QUOTE (Trucker @ Apr 13 2004, 11:28 PM) My suggestion: Spend the extra $5 and avoid goon. Trust me. but you get so much of it... $20 for 10 litres... you cant go wrong

QUOTE (missjaykay @ Apr 13 2004, 11:25 PM)

banrock station roset not sure of its actual name. but kirty loves it

Banrock Station White Shiraz - marvellous drop and it's as popular as hell
NOTE TO KIRTY- it's about to go out of vintage for 4-5 months so enjoy it while you can


muffo, it's obvious you have no qualms spending a dollar or two on a bottle by your previous selections, any merlot above $20 is going to be excellent quality, you just have to find something you like, it's all trial and error really as at that end of the market, the wineries like to get tricky with their style to make their wine unique.


On the cabernet side of things, the St Hugo is the shiznit, absolute benchmark coonawarra cabernet. If you want to try something a little cheaper, but still great quality, go for the Stonehaven Stepping Stone Cabernet, bout $15 a bottle and a top drink too


if you actually want to learn about wine full on, there are a few good tafe courses going(6 months i think), and there are always heaps of wine tastings on weekends at places like melbourne street cellars and Baily and Baily.


rob, long peppery aftertaste, i'd say it was a split label grenache shiraz, or the diamond label cabernet, did you see the bottle?? describe it to me

QUOTE (Trucker @ Apr 13 2004, 11:46 PM)

QUOTE (dnb_junkie @ Apr 13 2004, 11:40 PM) QUOTE (Trucker @ Apr 13 2004, 11:28 PM) My suggestion: Spend the extra $5 and avoid goon. Trust me. but you get so much of it... $20 for 10 litres... you cant go wrong

agreed....quality over quantity any day

2003 Top SA REDS

2000 ($14.40) Lindemans Reserve Padthaway Cabernet Sauvignon
2001 ($19.95) d'Arenberg d'Arry's Original Shiraz Grenache
2001 ($23.00) Wolf Blass Gold Label Cabernet Sauvignon Cabernet Franc
2000 ($24.00) Balnaves Cabernet Merlot
2002 ($25.00) Hewitson Ned & Henry's Shiraz
2002 ($25.00) Mitchell Peppertree Vineyard Shiraz
2002 ($34.00) Henschke Johann's Garden Grenache Shiraz Mourvedre
1999 ($34.50) Yalumba Signature Cabernet Shiraz
2001 ($39.50) Haan Wines Wilhemus '00
2001 ($40.00) Kilikanoon Oracle Shiraz
2000 ($55.00) Jamiesons Run Winemakers Reserve Cabernet Sauvignon
1999 ($58.00) Petaluma Merlot
2001 ($66.50) Wirra Wirra McLaren Vale Shiraz
2000 ($70.00) Majella The Malleea Shiraz Cabernet
1998 ($400.00) Penfolds Grange

2003 Top SA WHITES

2003 ($15.99) Leasingham Bin 7 Riesling '00 '02
2003 ($19.50) O'Leary Walker Watervale Riesling '01 '02
2003 ($16.50) St Hallett Eden Valley Riesling '01 '02
2003 ($22.00) Geoff Weaver Lenswood Riesling '00 '01 '02
1998 ($24.95) Pewsey Vale The Contour Riesling
2003 ($39.00) Grosset Polish Hill Riesling '00
2000 ($100.00) Penfolds Yattarna Chardonnay

2003 Top SA SPARKLINGS

XXXX ($9.95) Orlando Jacobs Creek Chardonnay/Pinot Noir NV
XXXX ($12.90) Seppelt Fleur de Lys Chardonnay Pinot Noir Pinot Meunier NV
1999 ($24.99) Hardys Sir James Vintage Pinot Noir Chardonnay

QUOTE (missjaykay @ Apr 13 2004, 11:25 PM)

banrock station roset not sure of its actual name. but kirty loves it

Rose

Don't mind the St Hallets Rose.... even though i called Steve Frost a pillow biter for drinkin that girly crap! nicer than the banrock station one anyway.

I loved the '98 Peter Lehman Cab Sav.... but my poor loose sphincy (heartburn etc) cannot handle a good ol cab sav that well anymore.

Few recent cheapies that i had that were decent... the current range of Jacob's Creek Merlot (2001 i think) and dont mind a bit of the Peter Lehman's 2002 Riesling.

thanks for that list paul

muffo, here is your mission, try the wines on that list

although a couple are unavailable now to my knowledge

notably the grange '98, i work in a bottle shop, and there was god knows how much press coverage over the release of this wine, and we still get cunts ringing up goin, do ya have the '98 grange in stock???? piss orf you MUPPETS!!!!!!!

Other reasonable choices:

2002 Penfolds Thomas Hyland Cabernet Sauvignon
2002 Angoves Long Row Shiraz
(Very affordable, a suprisingly good wine for Angoves)
2001 Wynn's Coonawarra Estate Shiraz
2000 Pepperjack Grenache Shiraz Mourvedre
2000 Miranda Family Reserve Bush Vine Grenache
(Quite a heavy wine, good with rich meat based pasta dishes)
1999 Hamilton Centurion Shiraz
1998 Normans Old Vine Grenache
1993 Penfolds Old Vine Shiraz Grenache Mourvedre
(Not as expensive as you would think, there is a bottle shop in Tanunda
that stocks this.... It is well worth the drive!)


I am not a big white drinker, but try

2002 Yalumba Christobel's Classic Dry White

I do not like wine, and i was told by some*sophisticated* person that i did not like wine because i was unsophisticated, champagne was good at red square, it was free 2!!!! I also do not like beer very much, it has a very bland flavour, ive been told it cos of the yeast, so im also apparantly not a bloke. I do like spirits, this is where i cop a bit: what i drink. I have this desire for sugar and sweet things, i think its why i like spirits, such as cruisers, illusions, vodka, sambuca, bourbon and whiskey.

Someone help me i want to be sophisticated and a bloke!!!

I seriously doubt they even had champagne at Red Square. Maybe some aussie bubbly but it can only be called champagne if made from a certain region in France.

I spent Sunday out at Tin Shed watching the guys working their vintage. Talk about going back to basics but as a result theyre making perhaps the best wine in Australia right now. They dont make a lot and it isnt the easiest to find but if you can, spend the money as they make some amazing drops.

Plus the owner/winemaker Web, is a proper munt and true junglist. He was the one with the bizarre jaw actions out the front of Kenny Ken the other week. Simon Bassline Smith's latest tune, Tinman is named after him!

QUOTE (DTM @ Apr 14 2004, 01:49 AM)

I do not like wine, and i was told by some*sophisticated* person that i did not like wine because i was unsophisticated, champagne was good at red square, it was free 2!!!! I also do not like beer very much, it has a very bland flavour, ive been told it cos of the yeast, so im also apparantly not a bloke. I do like spirits, this is where i cop a bit: what i drink. I have this desire for sugar and sweet things, i think its why i like spirits, such as cruisers, illusions, vodka, sambuca, bourbon and whiskey. Someone help me i want to be sophisticated and a bloke!!!

im not sure if *sophisticated* and *bloke* r actually allowed in the same sentence...any1 agree with me there? hhahahaha
just kidding.

QUOTE (Noddy @ Apr 14 2004, 02:00 AM)

I seriously doubt they even had champagne at Red Square. Maybe some aussie bubbly but it can only be called champagne if made from a certain region in France.

well u must know what i mean, it was what they called it, i had some card 4 free entry plus complimentary drink. It was "champagne", obviously not from france, but yeah it tasted pretty good 4 free!!

Do ya know what theyre gonna call "champagne" which isnt made in "champagne"? Is that even spelt right?? "champagne" "champagne" "champagne" "champagne"

Im 2 tired 4 this i think

QUOTE (DTM @ Apr 14 2004, 02:18 AM)

QUOTE (Noddy @ Apr 14 2004, 02:00 AM) I seriously doubt they even had champagne at Red Square. Maybe some aussie bubbly but it can only be called champagne if made from a certain region in France. Do ya know what theyre gonna call "champagne" which isnt made in "champagne"?

they call it a sparkling white or something like that.

tried both, not a fan of either. dont like whites, period, they bring back bad spew memories of my underage goon days.

All reds, well almost,

Grenache, Pedi Verdot, Shiraz, Merlot, Cab Sav. and most combinations as well as the occasional Muscat.

QUOTE (PrOpAgAnDa @ Apr 14 2004, 12:35 AM)

i work in a bottle shop

Can you get Brown brother Dolcetto Syrah cos i can't find it anywhere anymore.

I typically only drink wine with a meal, I usually stick to reds and have a liking for cabernet sauvignons because of their more sour flavour. Paul has supplied a good list of both red and white wines however I suggest sticking to the cheaper end of the scale until you develop a pallet for the different varieties. A good place to start is with the cabernet range if your a red man, merlot, shiraz and sauvignon can range from sweet to sour.

I don't really like wine all that much. Although I had an interesting wine experience with Double D a while ago...

We were eating parmesan cheese by the handful and swigging it down with some red. Then we dropped the parmesan on the floor and proceeded to lick it/snort it up.

Ouch

Goon

with a new wine label being born every 72 hours, there is a lot of good australian wine out there. A lot of the wines mentioned below are from the bigger companies - try seeking out some of the smaller brands/wineries.

Shiraz/Viognier is gaining popularity at the moment, they are not your big bold spicy typical tripe, but a more elegant style. Heathcote, Petaluma, Shaw and Smith and Longview make some excellent examples.

Italian varities like Nebbiolo and Zinfandel are worth a try also.

There is no right or wrong with wine, get out and experience the many cellar doors and I am sure you'll find something.

QUOTE (hex @ Apr 14 2004, 08:06 AM)

QUOTE (PrOpAgAnDa @ Apr 14 2004, 12:35 AM) i work in a bottle shop Can you get Brown brother Dolcetto Syrah cos i can't find it anywhere anymore.

i'm pretty sure we've got it on range, i'll check for you tonight

QUOTE (PrOpAgAnDa @ Apr 14 2004, 10:45 AM)

QUOTE (hex @ Apr 14 2004, 08:06 AM) QUOTE (PrOpAgAnDa @ Apr 14 2004, 12:35 AM) i work in a bottle shop Can you get Brown brother Dolcetto Syrah cos i can't find it anywhere anymore. i'm pretty sure we've got it on range, i'll check for you tonight

sweet i can't get it up here i might have to send my mum in to buy a case.