KhemPosted: 9 Mar 2007, 11:50am
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Stop The War On Vinyl
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SparkPosted: 30 Mar 2007, 1:46pm
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Well done Khemo!
This is gold!
Top Excuses Given By DJs for not Playing Vinyl!
1) “Records are too heavy.”
Are you a man or a mouse? The myriad of trolley bags and padded record sacks on the market these days mean only the most pathetic weakling couldn’t manage to carry enough tunes for an hours set. And yet DJ’s are still to afraid to turn up at the club without a big bag or record box – because they know in their heart that they’re cheating everybody by playing CDs and they want people to think that they’re a real DJ.
2)“Buying vinyl and cutting dubplates is too expensive.”
A lot of the people claiming this are DJs who’ve been making a healthy career for themselves over the years from playing records. They can easily afford to buy a few white labels or cut a few dubplates – especially when they’re getting paid hundreds of pounds week in week out for each set they play! It’s lazy and greedy. Buying records and choosing which dubs to cut is an essential part of the selection process, resulting in the best possible set of tunes in the box – if you’re not prepared to pay for the music you play then maybe you don’t care about it.
3) “I like the freedom to be able to play out a tune I made that afternoon”.
If this excuse was to be believed then certain DJs are able to make a lot of music in an afternoon! Playing a tune off CDR at the end of your set because you haven’t had a chance to cut it onto plate is one thing – but a whole set of ropey CDRs is just lazy DJing.
4) “CDs sound better”
When you play a record you’re playing a piece of music which has been professionally mastered by an engineer who knows how to get it sounding fat for the dancefloor. When you play a new tune on CDR it’s usually come straight out of a producer’s computer which means that it’s gonna be entirely different sonically to the other tunes in your set, even with the most proficient use of Gain and EQ controls on a DJ mixer, you’re never going to be able to get that same level of consistency and strength of sound which a well master piece of vinyl delivers.
This is gold!
Top Excuses Given By DJs for not Playing Vinyl!
1) “Records are too heavy.”
Are you a man or a mouse? The myriad of trolley bags and padded record sacks on the market these days mean only the most pathetic weakling couldn’t manage to carry enough tunes for an hours set. And yet DJ’s are still to afraid to turn up at the club without a big bag or record box – because they know in their heart that they’re cheating everybody by playing CDs and they want people to think that they’re a real DJ.
2)“Buying vinyl and cutting dubplates is too expensive.”
A lot of the people claiming this are DJs who’ve been making a healthy career for themselves over the years from playing records. They can easily afford to buy a few white labels or cut a few dubplates – especially when they’re getting paid hundreds of pounds week in week out for each set they play! It’s lazy and greedy. Buying records and choosing which dubs to cut is an essential part of the selection process, resulting in the best possible set of tunes in the box – if you’re not prepared to pay for the music you play then maybe you don’t care about it.
3) “I like the freedom to be able to play out a tune I made that afternoon”.
If this excuse was to be believed then certain DJs are able to make a lot of music in an afternoon! Playing a tune off CDR at the end of your set because you haven’t had a chance to cut it onto plate is one thing – but a whole set of ropey CDRs is just lazy DJing.
4) “CDs sound better”
When you play a record you’re playing a piece of music which has been professionally mastered by an engineer who knows how to get it sounding fat for the dancefloor. When you play a new tune on CDR it’s usually come straight out of a producer’s computer which means that it’s gonna be entirely different sonically to the other tunes in your set, even with the most proficient use of Gain and EQ controls on a DJ mixer, you’re never going to be able to get that same level of consistency and strength of sound which a well master piece of vinyl delivers.
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I'm kind of in 2 minds on this one..
I love buying vinyl as much as the next person, but surely it's the music that is post important, regardless of the medium it's on. I think unless you are using the vinyl (think Q-Bert) then surely it's irrelevant. If CD's (provided they are purchased legitimately) allow DJ's to be more portable, play more and a wider range of tunes then I'm all for it..
If D-Bridge came and played a set completely on CD's i'm absolutely positive it would be just as rocking as his set of records. Quality DJ, quality tunes I would challenge somebody to tell the difference on most club sound systems.
Age old debate. My 2c
I love buying vinyl as much as the next person, but surely it's the music that is post important, regardless of the medium it's on. I think unless you are using the vinyl (think Q-Bert) then surely it's irrelevant. If CD's (provided they are purchased legitimately) allow DJ's to be more portable, play more and a wider range of tunes then I'm all for it..
If D-Bridge came and played a set completely on CD's i'm absolutely positive it would be just as rocking as his set of records. Quality DJ, quality tunes I would challenge somebody to tell the difference on most club sound systems.
Age old debate. My 2c
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QUOTE(M-Wave @ Mar 30 2007, 02:57 PM) [snapback]1068126402[/snapback]
I'm kind of in 2 minds on this one..
I love buying vinyl as much as the next person, but surely it's the music that is post important, regardless of the medium it's on. I think unless you are using the vinyl (think Q-Bert) then surely it's irrelevant. If CD's (provided they are purchased legitimately) allow DJ's to be more portable, play more and a wider range of tunes then I'm all for it..
I love buying vinyl as much as the next person, but surely it's the music that is post important, regardless of the medium it's on. I think unless you are using the vinyl (think Q-Bert) then surely it's irrelevant. If CD's (provided they are purchased legitimately) allow DJ's to be more portable, play more and a wider range of tunes then I'm all for it..
Damn straight man... in my opintion turntablists are the only people who can truly justify using vinyl...
Other than scratch records, the only other reason I still occasionally buy vinyl is cuz if you wanna keep up to date with new tunes you really have no choice cuz of the rediculous delay on mp3 releases. Obviously this is due to the issue of protecting the vinyl industry, but surely after pressing costs and shipping etc, more money could be made out of digital releases anyway?!
The major downside to digital is that there is sure to be alot of audio theft, ripping off artists of their hard earned money. The way i see it, the more money a producer makes from sales, the more money they have to put back into their productions... better equipment with those who know how to use it = much better tunes!!
Either way, i just reckon people should be more concerned with what skills a dj can show as opposed to what format(s) they choose to do it with!!
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Here here..
The only other issue I see is that currently artists with Tunes on Beatport and Trackitdown et al are not making much on tune sales at all.. So that is something that needs to change. Always the way though, distributors, labels etc tend to make more than the artist..
The only other issue I see is that currently artists with Tunes on Beatport and Trackitdown et al are not making much on tune sales at all.. So that is something that needs to change. Always the way though, distributors, labels etc tend to make more than the artist..
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QUOTE(kemikal @ Mar 30 2007, 03:34 PM) [snapback]1068126457[/snapback]
in my opintion turntablists are the only people who can truly justify using vinyl...
people should be more concerned with what skills a dj can show as opposed to what format(s) they choose to do it with!!
people should be more concerned with what skills a dj can show as opposed to what format(s) they choose to do it with!!
it doesn't matter what format you use as long as your playing/mixing music in one way or another. I have seen the sickest turntablism on CDJ1000's and there is no vinyl being used at all..
I think your opinion sucks.. that's my opinion!
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QUOTE(Mr S @ Mar 30 2007, 10:17 PM) [snapback]1068126530[/snapback]
it doesn't matter what format you use as long as your playing/mixing music in one way or another. I have seen the sickest turntablism on CDJ1000's and there is no vinyl being used at all..
I think your opinion sucks.. that's my opinion!
I think your opinion sucks.. that's my opinion!
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But i still prefer Vinyl.
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A band (independent) can put out an EP with approx 5-8 tunes for $15-20au on CD.
The band would have more than one member, 3 or more
Studio hire, audio engineer, instruments etc
Now, a "producer" puts out a 2 track record for approx $20-25
It's only one or two people
It was probably recorded in a bedroom studio, although there would be some extra cost with equipment to start with i'd guess that a recording studio with an audio engineer costs more.
So you get about 1/4 as much music for marginally more $$.
Vinyl is obviously not a very economical way of distributing music (or dance music producers are greedy).
The band would have more than one member, 3 or more
Studio hire, audio engineer, instruments etc
Now, a "producer" puts out a 2 track record for approx $20-25
It's only one or two people
It was probably recorded in a bedroom studio, although there would be some extra cost with equipment to start with i'd guess that a recording studio with an audio engineer costs more.
So you get about 1/4 as much music for marginally more $$.
Vinyl is obviously not a very economical way of distributing music (or dance music producers are greedy).
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QUOTE(Spark @ Mar 30 2007, 02:16 PM) [snapback]1068126393[/snapback]
Well done Khemo!
This is gold!
Top Excuses Given By DJs for not Playing Vinyl!
1) “Records are too heavy.”
Are you a man or a mouse? The myriad of trolley bags and padded record sacks on the market these days mean only the most pathetic weakling couldn’t manage to carry enough tunes for an hours set. And yet DJ’s are still to afraid to turn up at the club without a big bag or record box – because they know in their heart that they’re cheating everybody by playing CDs and they want people to think that they’re a real DJ.
2)“Buying vinyl and cutting dubplates is too expensive.”
A lot of the people claiming this are DJs who’ve been making a healthy career for themselves over the years from playing records. They can easily afford to buy a few white labels or cut a few dubplates – especially when they’re getting paid hundreds of pounds week in week out for each set they play! It’s lazy and greedy. Buying records and choosing which dubs to cut is an essential part of the selection process, resulting in the best possible set of tunes in the box – if you’re not prepared to pay for the music you play then maybe you don’t care about it.
3) “I like the freedom to be able to play out a tune I made that afternoon”.
If this excuse was to be believed then certain DJs are able to make a lot of music in an afternoon! Playing a tune off CDR at the end of your set because you haven’t had a chance to cut it onto plate is one thing – but a whole set of ropey CDRs is just lazy DJing.
4) “CDs sound better”
When you play a record you’re playing a piece of music which has been professionally mastered by an engineer who knows how to get it sounding fat for the dancefloor. When you play a new tune on CDR it’s usually come straight out of a producer’s computer which means that it’s gonna be entirely different sonically to the other tunes in your set, even with the most proficient use of Gain and EQ controls on a DJ mixer, you’re never going to be able to get that same level of consistency and strength of sound which a well master piece of vinyl delivers.
This is gold!
Top Excuses Given By DJs for not Playing Vinyl!
1) “Records are too heavy.”
Are you a man or a mouse? The myriad of trolley bags and padded record sacks on the market these days mean only the most pathetic weakling couldn’t manage to carry enough tunes for an hours set. And yet DJ’s are still to afraid to turn up at the club without a big bag or record box – because they know in their heart that they’re cheating everybody by playing CDs and they want people to think that they’re a real DJ.
2)“Buying vinyl and cutting dubplates is too expensive.”
A lot of the people claiming this are DJs who’ve been making a healthy career for themselves over the years from playing records. They can easily afford to buy a few white labels or cut a few dubplates – especially when they’re getting paid hundreds of pounds week in week out for each set they play! It’s lazy and greedy. Buying records and choosing which dubs to cut is an essential part of the selection process, resulting in the best possible set of tunes in the box – if you’re not prepared to pay for the music you play then maybe you don’t care about it.
3) “I like the freedom to be able to play out a tune I made that afternoon”.
If this excuse was to be believed then certain DJs are able to make a lot of music in an afternoon! Playing a tune off CDR at the end of your set because you haven’t had a chance to cut it onto plate is one thing – but a whole set of ropey CDRs is just lazy DJing.
4) “CDs sound better”
When you play a record you’re playing a piece of music which has been professionally mastered by an engineer who knows how to get it sounding fat for the dancefloor. When you play a new tune on CDR it’s usually come straight out of a producer’s computer which means that it’s gonna be entirely different sonically to the other tunes in your set, even with the most proficient use of Gain and EQ controls on a DJ mixer, you’re never going to be able to get that same level of consistency and strength of sound which a well master piece of vinyl delivers.
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Quick edit to add responses to a couple of the extra comments there...
1) “Records are too heavy.”
Definitely have to agree with you here, I've seen little Cheeky lug 2 record bags and a trolley from one end of Hindley street to the other, that's just no excuse, besides, THEY'RE NOT THAT HEAVY!!
2)“Buying vinyl and cutting dubplates is too expensive.”
To be fair, this can be true. If you're a big name, this is fair enough, but for some of the smaller ones, a lot of them buy their vinyl out of their own pockets, purely because they love and live the music.
As for 3 and 4, well, I really don't think they warrant too much of a mention....
To quote Australia's queen (and now, frankly, hypocrite) of trance, Bexta, "I don't play MP3's, and the dj is paying for the music, it's all okay by me! I would hate vinyl to disappear thou, there still is nothing like it."
I can remember seeing her do her Skirmish EP live, and her giving an interview saying how there was nothing like the organic feel of vinyl, yet, the last two tours, not a vinyl in sight, only her beloved Dell laptop and a copy of Alberton Live (i think) or something else, to basically do the DJing for her.
I can live with, and often enjoy cd mixes, there are many awesome, neat sounding things you can do with those lovely CDJ1000s and sometimes, you might have a new release or promo track that hasn't been cut to vinyl yet, as long as the end result sounds good.
But really, we come to raves not just for the music, but for the DJs as well, really, anyone who can count can beatmatch, but a truly remarkable dj and take you through the songs, not just mix them together and hope for the best...If that was all a DJ did, we'd just be listening to crossfaded songs, or we'd let tracks run out before starting a new one. (See my bexta set video for examples)
</end rant>
So yeah, after that rant has spewed forth, let me just say this, really, whether it be vinyl or CD, as long as your heart is in it and you're pumping out a quality set, it doesn't matter what you use, or what us oldschool diehards want, it's all about the music.
Ok, let the replies come in.
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SentaPosted: 31 Mar 2007, 7:03pm
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that shit about most djs having a healthy career is just wrong. I think you'll find that there are a fuckload more bedroom djs out there who have never and will never earn a cent from djing. Try justifying to them that they should spend $20 for one song and two remixes they don't want.
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QUOTE(Senta @ Mar 31 2007, 07:33 PM) [snapback]1068126668[/snapback]
that shit about most djs having a healthy career is just wrong. I think you'll find that there are a fuckload more bedroom djs out there who have never and will never earn a cent from djing. Try justifying to them that they should spend $20 for one song and two remixes they don't want.
I agree with that completely, you'll find even most of the DJs at Earth are in the same boat, they do it for the love of the music.
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QUOTE(Draco @ Mar 31 2007, 12:06 AM) [snapback]1068126534[/snapback]
To quote Australia's queen (and now, frankly, hypocrite) of trance, Bexta, "I don't play MP3's, and the dj is paying for the music, it's all okay by me! I would hate vinyl to disappear thou, there still is nothing like it."
I can remember seeing her do her Skirmish EP live, and her giving an interview saying how there was nothing like the organic feel of vinyl, yet, the last two tours, not a vinyl in sight, only her beloved Dell laptop and a copy of Alberton Live (i think) or something else, to basically do the DJing for her.
I can remember seeing her do her Skirmish EP live, and her giving an interview saying how there was nothing like the organic feel of vinyl, yet, the last two tours, not a vinyl in sight, only her beloved Dell laptop and a copy of Alberton Live (i think) or something else, to basically do the DJing for her.
Probably because she was playing "live" and all her own stuff
QUOTE(Draco @ Mar 31 2007, 12:06 AM) [snapback]1068126534[/snapback]
So yeah, after that rant has spewed forth, let me just say this, really, whether it be vinyl or CD, as long as your heart is in it and you're pumping out a quality set, it doesn't matter what you use, or what us oldschool diehards want, it's all about the music.
I agree, while i still buy vinyl, i'm so sick of hearing shit about cd's from vinyl purists. its all about the music!
QUOTE(Senta @ Mar 31 2007, 08:03 PM) [snapback]1068126668[/snapback]
that shit about most djs having a healthy career is just wrong. I think you'll find that there are a fuckload more bedroom djs out there who have never and will never earn a cent from djing. Try justifying to them that they should spend $20 for one song and two remixes they don't want.
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QUOTE(kuruption @ Apr 1 2007, 01:03 AM) [snapback]1068126675[/snapback]
Probably because she was playing "live" and all her own stuff
I agree, while i still buy vinyl, i'm so sick of hearing shit about cd's from vinyl purists. its all about the music!
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I agree, while i still buy vinyl, i'm so sick of hearing shit about cd's from vinyl purists. its all about the music!
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Nah, she wasn't playing her own stuff, she was using Alberton Live to envelope mp3s of the tracks she was playing, so it could beatmatch/crossfade/etc for her. I know it's all about the music, but hearing the sets she's done with her computer, it's just...lost some of the magic.
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Thers also the public demand factor. A producer makes a tune, it gets sent all over the place and is aired on the radio. Then if the punters like it all you get are requests all night long in the clubs. Problem is the tune isnt pressed for another 6 months or more and then distributed. By then everyone hates it and are over it but during this time the dj's at the club down the road buy it / download it and keep up with the demand.
This results in a very empty and a not up with the times club which = closed.
Perfect example is "put ya hands up for detroit" and "Fluant it" everyone in the commercial scene loved it when they first got aired and played and was a must in the venues and atleast 3 times a night.
What about 80's nights and 70's. Many dj's out there with 8 hours atleast of these tunes????????
Theres a place for cd's.
This results in a very empty and a not up with the times club which = closed.
Perfect example is "put ya hands up for detroit" and "Fluant it" everyone in the commercial scene loved it when they first got aired and played and was a must in the venues and atleast 3 times a night.
What about 80's nights and 70's. Many dj's out there with 8 hours atleast of these tunes????????
Theres a place for cd's.
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I buy vinyl, and I buy MP3's...
and I'm not even a DJ.
some tunes I've bought the record and the MP3...
but the vinyl I buy is more for collection purposes than it is DJ'ing purposes.
I don't even see why there needs to be a CDJ vs turntable war.
I don't think vinyl will ever phase out. Clubs, well I assume, all have both turntables and CDJ's... so what difference does it make?
and I'm not even a DJ.
some tunes I've bought the record and the MP3...
but the vinyl I buy is more for collection purposes than it is DJ'ing purposes.
I don't even see why there needs to be a CDJ vs turntable war.
I don't think vinyl will ever phase out. Clubs, well I assume, all have both turntables and CDJ's... so what difference does it make?
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My grandparents had a journal once that people wrote in and the argument was gramaphones Vs geto blasters.
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I have respect for anyone that can mix well on vinyl. It's something I don't think I'll ever be able to do properly or with the precision of some of these dj's
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I disagree mate, ive seen u mix tight as fuck on cdjs, pretty much same skill on 12", but without the master tempo feature. Cant see why you wouldnt be able to do it
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Oh i've tried to mix on vinyl... Not in public though 
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Don't know how you guys do it!
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EvoPosted: 1 Apr 2007, 7:34pm
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i like the feel of cdj's over vinyl. i can do both but i prefer one other the other
and i dont see wats the big rant and rave about it. its music
and i dont see wats the big rant and rave about it. its music
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Nic BorrelliPosted: 1 Apr 2007, 8:07pm
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QUOTE(Cetra³ @ Apr 1 2007, 07:22 PM) [snapback]1068126735[/snapback]
Oh i've tried to mix on vinyl... Not in public though
Don't know how you guys do it!
Don't know how you guys do it!
haha, i remember that night a while back you and pauly were having a go on my decks and the look on your faces was priceless
i thought id always be a vinyl whore, but honestly i cant justify spending $20 on a tune, especially when im making $0 back off it.
currently im buying 10-20 tracks a week, on vinyl that would set me back a minimum of $200, as an mp3 around $40... so much more economical. Also, most of the stuff i play now doesnt get released on vinyl
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DracoPosted: 1 Apr 2007, 8:49pm
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QUOTE(Cetra³ @ Apr 1 2007, 04:08 PM) [snapback]1068126720[/snapback]
I have respect for anyone that can mix well on vinyl. It's something I don't think I'll ever be able to do properly or with the precision of some of these dj's
I didn't know there was a war on it though
I didn't know there was a war on it though
Really? I'm the exact opposite, but i suppose it just comes back to familiarity.
Aces HighPosted: 1 Apr 2007, 10:54pm
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QUOTE(Evo @ Apr 1 2007, 07:34 PM) [snapback]1068126741[/snapback]
i like the feel of cdj's over vinyl. i can do both but i prefer one other the other
and i dont see wats the big rant and rave about it. its music
and i dont see wats the big rant and rave about it. its music
you idiot
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BettermanPosted: 2 Apr 2007, 8:59am
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QUOTE(Nic Borrelli @ Apr 1 2007, 09:07 PM) [snapback]1068126747[/snapback]
but honestly i cant justify spending $20 on a tune, especially when im making $0 back off it.
thats cause you suck
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Nic BorrelliPosted: 2 Apr 2007, 1:54pm
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ok for you who has a fulltime job. Im a student working part time.... when i was using vinyl i was in yrs 10-12 and didnt even have a job :S
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BettermanPosted: 2 Apr 2007, 2:00pm
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QUOTE(Nic Borrelli @ Apr 2 2007, 02:54 PM) [snapback]1068126965[/snapback]
ok for you who has a fulltime job. Im a student working part time.... when i was using vinyl i was in yrs 10-12 and didnt even have a job :S
yeah true, being a student can be tough
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Nic BorrelliPosted: 2 Apr 2007, 2:04pm
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and boring
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M-WavePosted: 2 Apr 2007, 2:11pm
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Try having a damn mortgage mate :p
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Nic BorrelliPosted: 2 Apr 2007, 3:29pm
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ill soon have a loan to pay off if i find the car im looking for :P
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