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Bush Admits to War Crimes
KhemPosted: 13 Sep 2006, 10:47am
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and wants the war crimes law to be updated and backdated so he doesnt get done by it!!

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George W. Bush's speech on September 6 amounted to a public confession to criminal violations of the 1996 War Crimes Act. He implicitly admitted authorizing disappearances, extrajudicial imprisonment, torture, transporting prisoners between countries and denying the International Committee of the Red Cross access to prisoners.

These are all serious violations of the Geneva Conventions. The War Crimes Act makes grave breaches of the Geneva Conventions and all violations of Common Article 3 punishable by fines, imprisonment or, if death results to the victim, the death penalty.

At the same time, Bush asked Congress to amend the War Crimes Act in order to retroactively protect him and other U.S. officials from prosecution for these crimes, and from civil lawsuits arising from them. He justified this on the basis that "our military and intelligence personnel involved in capturing and questioning terrorists could now be at risk of prosecution under the War Crimes Act . . . ," and insisted that “passing this legislation ought to be the top priority” for Congress between now and the election in November.
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DimitriPosted: 13 Sep 2006, 10:57am
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yeah he also admited in an interview iraq had nothing to do with terrorists, was funny watching the dumbass look on his face when he realised what he had said

anyway hope this fucker frys
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benj2.1Posted: 13 Sep 2006, 11:00am
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lol looks like the shit has hit the fan.. lets see if he can rig the geneva convention liked he rigged the election!
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At least Clinton would say "I did not have criminal relations of war with that country - they had them with me!" 016_lol.gif

seriously though, I can't see this really changing much - wheels of war are already in motion..
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Just shows how completely fucked up in the head Bush really is!

Congress shouldn't have the power to change international laws to protect an American. I'd like to see Bush ask an American soldier from WW2 who was tortured by the Japanese if the Geneva convention should be changed so that people were no longer protected.

He fucked up and is trying to change laws to stop his drunken, born-again Christian, Rumsfeld cum filled sorry arse being fried in a Texas prison!

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michPosted: 13 Sep 2006, 11:29am
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QUOTE(Raver1 @ Sep 13 2006, 11:23 AM) [snapback]1068047727[/snapback]

Bush = today's Hitler



except without the intelligence or mental instability to hide behind!!


I really don't see this changing anything - and is anyone really surprised?? The Americans have always tried to manipulate the rest of the world to conform to their views, regardless of how wrong they may be. Everyone knows their number one policy is Do as I say not as I do. *shrugs* won't change a thing! The man is borderline retarded anyone who expects any better from him is just deluding themselves!

he actually reminds me of that guy on the wedge.. the local sports personality who can't even read a statement without screwing it up..

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jodiejaiPosted: 13 Sep 2006, 11:39am
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Lets just hope that he doesn't get his way... If the US can get the geneva conventions changed, then what is that telling the rest of the world? That the US can do anything they like and get away with it...

If they change the Geneva conventions, then what's going to be next?
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alexb618Posted: 13 Sep 2006, 11:45am
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QUOTE(jodiejai @ Sep 13 2006, 11:39 AM) [snapback]1068047742[/snapback]

Lets just hope that he doesn't get his way... If the US can get the geneva conventions changed, then what is that telling the rest of the world? That the US can do anything they like and get away with it...

If they change the Geneva conventions, then what's going to be next?


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DimitriPosted: 13 Sep 2006, 11:45am
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well wont it just prove that the tenuous thread the world tries to abide by actually mean nothing therefore countries can do as they want without consequence?

anarchy..? anyone?
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pah! symantics
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benj2.1Posted: 13 Sep 2006, 12:00pm
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QUOTE(Dimitri @ Sep 13 2006, 12:45 PM) [snapback]1068047745[/snapback]

well wont it just prove that the tenuous thread the world tries to abide by actually mean nothing therefore countries can do as they want without consequence?

anarchy..? anyone?


just look at the United Nations! this wouldnt be the first time.. =/

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DimitriPosted: 13 Sep 2006, 12:18pm
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the UN has no 'real' power.
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QUOTE(Dimitri @ Sep 13 2006, 12:18 PM) [snapback]1068047780[/snapback]

the UN has no 'real' power.



014_gasp.gif how can you say such a thing - they can write letters to you telling you how angry they are with you!!
trashy_chicaPosted: 13 Sep 2006, 2:01pm
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and to think, australia also doesnt abide by the war crimes tribunal...!!!

the war crimes tribunal is a BIG DEAL people, even if as dimi says 'the un has no real power' there are enough pissed off nations in the world that when united...have a huge amount of influence.
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QUOTE(mich @ Sep 13 2006, 12:19 PM) [snapback]1068047783[/snapback]

014_gasp.gif how can you say such a thing - they can write letters to you telling you how angry they are with you!!


Haha - good one 016_lol.gif
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jjcoolausPosted: 13 Sep 2006, 2:17pm
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I don't know much about US politics or how many republicans (thats the mob bush is with innit?) there are in power, but isn't there enough people in US congress to say no to this law and have it rejected?

He doesn't have full control of all houses of parliament like johnny does, does he?

Agree with a lot that has been said in this thread - the UN is useless in a world where pretty much anyone can do whatever they please at any time.

I hope bush loses the next election - the man is clearly insane & what's worse is that john howard is clearly smitten with him. Wrapped around his little finger.
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bush cant run for office again, 2 term max in US politics

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US presidents can only serve 2 terms. This is his last term, so it's not so much a matter of him getting voted in. He wants the laws changed so that when his term runs out he can not be trialed in the same way as Saddam.
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QUOTE(jjcoolaus @ Sep 4 2006, 03:07 PM) [snapback]1068042620[/snapback]

Someone would have to break into my house to steal my underwear, but if you want to smell my crotch and taste my dick that badly, all you have to do is ask.... :teehee: :crazy:
michPosted: 13 Sep 2006, 2:27pm
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QUOTE(jjcoolaus @ Sep 13 2006, 02:17 PM) [snapback]1068047911[/snapback]

the man is clearly insane & what's worse is that john howard is clearly smitten with him. Wrapped around his little finger.



you credit the man too much JJ.. he's clearly retarded... it's his puppet string pullers who are insane.

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QUOTE(mich @ Sep 13 2006, 02:27 PM) [snapback]1068047921[/snapback]

finger puppet!!!



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jjcoolausPosted: 13 Sep 2006, 2:38pm
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thanks everyone - GOOD (on him not being able to run again)

but my other question still remains - does he have a clear majority in congress like howard does in our 2 houses of parliament?

aka, whats the likelyhood of this getting up and the war crimes laws being changed?
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Lol, i hope him and all his buddies fry the stupid fucks.

Someone must be threatening him internally hmm

Pretty brave to try and use the 'oh but ur safer now coz of that, yeh your safer' .. shows how much he thinks of the US Public's intelligence.

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QUOTE(jjcoolaus @ Sep 4 2006, 03:07 PM) [snapback]1068042620[/snapback]

Someone would have to break into my house to steal my underwear, but if you want to smell my crotch and taste my dick that badly, all you have to do is ask.... :teehee: :crazy:
wojtekPosted: 13 Sep 2006, 3:52pm
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QUOTE(jjcoolaus @ Sep 13 2006, 02:38 PM) [snapback]1068047930[/snapback]

thanks everyone - GOOD (on him not being able to run again)

but my other question still remains - does he have a clear majority in congress like howard does in our 2 houses of parliament?

aka, whats the likelyhood of this getting up and the war crimes laws being changed?



I may be way off base here, but the war crimes laws are international laws, ie not ones set in the US by the US govt.
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not sure myself but maybe he wants the dates of when those laws become valid in the USA.. a country can choose to ignore the laws if it wants.. or addopt them

just a guess
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QUOTE(mich @ Sep 13 2006, 02:27 PM) [snapback]1068047921[/snapback]

you credit the man too much JJ.. he's clearly retarded... it's his puppet string pullers who are insane.

J/H is the puppets, finger puppet!!!


You are totally right, but who are the puppet masters?? That, we will never know.. 010_errr.gif

May need to contact Solid Snake to get the lowdown and take em out.. I think they have a good idea of what they are doing & putting a socially retarded chimpanzee for a figurehead president is most likely a front, to cover up their true intentions/goals... 038_shifty.gif

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QUOTE(Dimitri @ Sep 13 2006, 04:19 PM) [snapback]1068048046[/snapback]

not sure myself but maybe he wants the dates of when those laws become valid in the USA.. a country can choose to ignore the laws if it wants.. or addopt them

just a guess



The Geneva convention applies to all nations in the UN.. you have to agree to them to become a member.. but considering the US pretty much founded the UN, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for the UN to do anything.